Debates of Dec. 8th, 1993

This is page numbers 517 - 564 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Contributions Policy - Local Community Transportation Facilities
Building And Learning Strategy
Dene Kede Curriculum Launched
Member's Statement Re Proposal To Close Akaitcho Hall
Member's Statement Re Resignation As Deputy Speaker
The Importance Of Literacy
Prospecting Course In Baker Lake
Member's Statement Re Subsidized Housing Program
Member's Statement Acknowledging Pages From Inuvik
Member's Statement Welcoming Pages From Rankin Inlet
Miracle In Iqaluit
Appreciation To Honourable M. Ballantyne
Return To Oral Question 173-12(4): Method Of Identifying Former Dumping Sites In The Arctic Ocean
Return To Oral Question 197-12(4): Handling And Transportation Of Firearms
Further Return To Oral Question 188-12(4): Change Of Name Procedures
Further Return To Oral Question 166-12(4): Financial Assistance For Family Of Missing Hunter From Arviat
Further Return To Oral Question 218-12(4): Negotiations For Arctic Airports
Further Return To Oral Question 151-12(4): Availability Of Funding To Communities Visiting Greenland
Further Return To Oral Question 171-12(4): Process For Determining Maximum Value Of Contracts
Further Return To Oral Question 161-12(4): Finance Officer Responsible For Official Languages
Further Return To Oral Question 158-12(4): Funds For Communities Under Languages Agreement
Return To Oral Question 162-12(4): Date Premier Became Aware Of Lapsed Funds Under Languages AgreementFurther Return To Oral Question 163-12(4): Lapsed Funds Under Languages Agreement
Further Return To Oral Question 174-12(4): GNWT Commitment To Spreading Conference Business Throughout The Nwt
Return To Oral Question 180-12(4): Cost Of Sending Student From Pond Inlet To Iqaluit
Return To Written Question 16-12(4): Student Loan Agreement
Role Of Em&pr
Discussions With Federal Government Re Northern Energy Accord
Changes In Em&pr To Focus On Mineral Development
Type Of Expertise Shared With Other Groups
Training Programs For Heavier Involvement In The Mining Industry
Purpose Of Road To Arctic Coast
Transfer Of Em&pr Positions To The East
Construction Of Road To Rae Lakes
Increases In Social Assistance Rates
Division Secretariat Established By Cabinet
Hiring Of Outside Electricians When Local People Available
Date Of Decision To Set Up Division Secretariat
Reinstatement Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Department Responsible For Mining
Transportation Strategy Report
Full-time Ed&t Staff Requested For Hall Beach
Funds For Meeting Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Projected Deficit For 1993-94
Drivers' Licences - Changes For Visually Impaired
Stockpiles Transferred For Roads In Chesterfield Inlet
Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management Contributions
Dene Cultural Institute Proposal, Fmb Review
Problems With Birth Certificates
Ed&t Office To Handle Industrial Benefits From Major Projects
Minister's Reference To Mess In Social Services
Tabling Of Terms Of Reference For Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Question 249-12(44): Eviction Of Tenants For Rental Arrears In Baffin Public Housing
Ed&t Minister's Ignorance Of Initiative Announced By Premier
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
Return To Written Question 15-12(4): Disabled Persons Vocational Rehabilitation Cost-sharing
Return To Written Question 16-12(4): Student Loan Agreement
Return To Written Question 18-12(4): Ministers' Home Travel
Return To Written Question 24-12(4): Languages Commissioner's Travel List
Return To Written Question 25-12(4): Bosco Homes Contracts And/or Contributions
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Referral Of The Comprehensive Audit Of The Department Of Economic Development And Tourism To The Standing Committee On Public Accounts
Adopting Members' Conduct Guidelines
Legislatures Recommendation To The Electoral District Boundaries Commission
Appearance Of Witnesses Before Committee Of The Whole When Dealing With Family Violence In The Nwt
Revert Back To Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Amend Subclause 3(2) Of Bill 1
To Amend Schedule To Bill 1
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Over the last few days questions have been asked for information on Ministers' home travel. Today, we are not aware whether we have been provided that information yet. We would still like to see Ministers' home travel. So, I just want to know where that is?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

If my memory serves me correctly, Mr. Chairman, I think Madam Premier tabled that information today in the House, if that is acceptable. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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James Arvaluk Aivilik

How then, will this $49,000 be paid for, if it is being removed through a formal motion?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, I wonder if the Member could repeat the question please?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Arvaluk, would you repeat your question for the Minister?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $49,000 that is for ministerial home travel, how is it going to be paid for now, if it will no longer be in Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Well, Mr. Chairman, I guess we'll go as far as we can with what we have in our budget and then Ministers won't go home any more. I guess it will be handled from within the Executive, and that's it, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Ministers always find a way.

---Laughter

Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

I know that has been deleted, but it begs the question, were the initial budgets too low, or was it too much travel? I am not sure about this overexpenditure. Has the cost run up significantly or people taking long routes home? Why are we, all of a sudden, $49,000 over budget?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, we miscalculated. There is an entitlement of Ministers to travel home 32 round trips to their constituency in a fiscal year. There was a reduction made in this particular area the year before. The mix of the Ministers changed. We made a miscalculation and we were that much money short, Mr. Chairman. We will endeavour to eat that from within. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Ministers' offices, $264,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Gargan.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

I realize that the Minister did say that they will try to eat that from within. Are there some Ministers who are doing more travel, than others? That sort of balances out. The Ministers who don't travel as much to their home community, would have a larger budget towards the end of the year. Has that been absorbed by balancing?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the Member is correct that Ministers sometimes don't know when they are going to be able to get back and forth. That may well be the case. If there is not as much travelling towards the end of the year, it may balance out, in fact. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The Executive Council Secretariat, special warrants, $188,000. Agreed?

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 79-12(4): To Amend Schedule To Bill 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

All right. Executive Council Secretariat, not previously authorized, negative $1.905 million. Agreed?