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Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Regarding the issue of the new staff housing strategy, $1.154 million has been referred to in this budget for

the power subsidy support program. Are those under grants and contributions? Where is this money identified in this activity?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the Member is correct it is under grants and contributions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can I get more detail? I am more confused now. There is $4.354 million currently in the budget. Is the Minister saying the budget has been increased by $1.154 million to cover anticipated costs of the staff housing strategy?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, knowing Mr. Koe's ability with numbers I am sure he is figuring out that what I am saying is not balancing. It does not balance in the books. It is $3.5 million, less $300,000 because the domestic subsidy will not be paid on residential units held in business names effective April 1, 1993, which will be a savings of $300,000, then plus the power subsidy support program of $1.154 million, which will be the user-pay for GNWT staff housing. I think those number should now balance, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Who is eligible for the power subsidy support program and what are some of the criteria?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the power subsidy program has two components. The domestic power subsidy program gives a discount to all residential users outside of Yellowknife for the first 700 kilowatts hours used per month. The commercial subsidy program provides a discount to all northern businesses with gross revenue of less than $2 million for the first 1,000 kilowatt hours used per month. The subsidy is established so that the rates paid would be equivalent to those paid within Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Government accounting, total O and M, $9.900 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Fiscal Policy

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Page 04-11, fiscal policy, total O and M, $738,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Tax Administration

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Page 04-12, tax administration, total O and M, $833,000. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I am not sure of the proper words to use but I am a little astounded that under tax administration in the program description there is no reference to the payroll tax, yet it is your newest proposed revenue. I am wondering it this was an oversight.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, it was in fact an oversight. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Tax administration, total O and M, $833,000. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Because of the status of the Payroll Tax Act, I would have great difficulty in approving this activity at this stage until we know the final result of the Payroll Tax Act. I am not sure whether I need a motion to defer this activity or how we deal with this. I need some advice.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

I am wondering whether the Member would like to defer this one page or the whole department. Mr. Koe.

Motion To Defer Activity Of Tax Administration Under Department Of Finance

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that we defer the activity of tax administration under the Department of Finance until we get clarification on the Payroll Tax Act.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.