This House will come to order. Before I begin with the Ministers' statements, I would like to recognize in the gallery, a group of 20 rotary club students from the around the world, South Africa, Australia, Brazil, Vietnam and India, as well as Canadian students from British Columbia and Alberta. These students are being sponsored by the Alberta Rotary Club. The rotary club from Yellowknife is hosting a program called "northern experiences." The students are in town for five days and will take part in the Caribou Carnival activities this weekend. We hope they enjoy their visit to our territory.

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Welcome to the Northwest Territories. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Wednesday, March 24, 1993, the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi stated, and I quote from page 3157 of the unedited Hansard, "The homework which should be done should be with Members who are sometimes using information which is not correct because it impacts on statements which are made, for instance, by members of the union. When there is no attempt to correct some of the misinformation, then it becomes a problem for good factual debate in this House." Mr. Speaker, the statement made by Mr. Kakfwi was in response to my questioning the Minister on legal implications flowing from the Department of Justice's decision to designate the River Ridge facility as a secure facility. Mr. Speaker, I take strong exception to the honourable Member's statement.

The Minister is aware that I have tabled several legal documents which deal with the proper and improper designation of young offenders' facilities. The Minister, himself, acknowledges the relevance by these decisions when he stated and I quote from page 3156 from unedited Hansard, "The court cases which the Member tabled are court cases which the Department of Justice is fully aware of. They were reviewed a few months ago when this plan was being considered on a tentative basis." Given that the Minister's staff have reviewed these cases, how can he suggest that Members are not doing their homework and that Members are presenting misinformation? Mr. Speaker, the case is tabled and the thrust of my questions to the Minister have focused on whether the designation is appropriate and in keeping with the law. It may well be that the designation is appropriate and legal if the Department of Justice takes certain steps to establish programs appropriate to young offenders in an open custody facility, or if the staff are trained to deal with open custody offenders or if certain structural modifications are made. Those are the issues.

Member for Thebacha, your allotted time has expired. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you. I seek unanimous consent to continue.

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Those are the issues, Mr. Speaker. They are legitimate issues of concern to me and to my constituents. The Minister has not taken the time to deal with these issues in this House in a thorough and thoughtful manner, which is responsive to legitimate concerns. On the contrary, the Minister has dismissed my concerns with an off-the-cuff comment about failure to do homework and presenting misinformation to this House.

Further to this, Mr. Speaker, he also knows I tabled a letter this week from the union, which the last paragraph reads and I quote, "Therefore, I would suggest that your statement 'that as far as you know everyone is in agreement, except for the union' is completely inaccurate as I believe you knew it was at the time you made these remarks." That is signed by Keith Dowling who is the regional vice-president of the union in Fort Smith. It makes me wonder, Mr. Speaker, who is presenting misinformation in this House. Mr. Speaker, the issue will not go away. I will continue to question the Minister until I am satisfied that the interest of the young offenders in the Northwest Territories and the concerns of my constituents are addressed. Thank you.

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent.

Hear, hear.

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Patterson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Tuesday, March 2, 1993, I asked the Honourable Nellie Cournoyea, Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, about causes of frequent power outages at the plant in Iqaluit. The Minister stated in her responses to my questions that the problems could be a result of human error. I then went on to ask the Minister, among other things, whether there were gremlins loose in the Iqaluit power plant.

Mr. Speaker, these statements caused some great concern to the dedicated staff in the Iqaluit plant. I have since looked into the situation and I have learned that an exhaustive analysis of the problems at the power plant by the corporation has concluded there was no human error. The problems were technical and, as I understand it, a result mainly of problems connecting new equipment with very old equipment and exchanges. There was no sabotage.

I understand the new unit is on-line and seems to be working well. I wish to apologize for any offence my questions may have given to dedicated staff, who were doing their professional best in difficult circumstances. Thank you.

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I listened with interest to the budget speech from the Yukon this week. In that jurisdiction they found it necessary to raise taxes and, like our government, they are favoured because they do not have a huge deficit to worry about. Whenever you deliver government programs, the money has to come from somewhere. People have to get the idea that anything they ask for has to be paid for and it is their money that pays for it through the tax regime.

We have faced the same kind of problem here, but we do not have a party system, we have consensus government, which means that any individual here who does not want to vote for something because it will make him or her unpopular, will not do so. It puts our own government at a tremendous disadvantage compared to other governments. It is very difficult to get unpopular legislation through any assembly. For example, in my constituency, by voting for a tax measure, I will automatically be considered to be out of sync with the people I represent.

The tax we have in front of us to deal with very soon is a payroll tax and for many of the people I represent it seems rather "cute." An attempt to get us to pay taxes by pretending to tax people who live somewhere else. My own guess is if we were more straightforward with the public and say if they want service someone has to pay for it, we would just simply make an adjustment so the tax which we impose on people is very clearly designed to provide the level of service people are asking for. Thank you.

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a response to a question asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 5, 1993, regarding the status of research on Malikjuaq Park.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, in response to the question from Mr. Pudlat on the status of Malikjuaq Park, I would like to report the following progress.

During the summer of 1992, the department contracted Mr. Doug Stenton to carry out archaeological work at the park. This work continued from preliminary investigations undertaken during 1991. Four Cape Dorset students were trained by Mr. Stenton and assisted him in the field.

Mr. Stenton has provided the Department of Economic Development and Tourism with a report summarizing his activities and finds, and a draft text for a brochure to be produced this coming year. Copies of this material will be provided to the Member from the department's Iqaluit office.

John Liard and Associates of Yellowknife, was hired during 1992-93 to develop plans and brochures for interpretive walking trails in the park and surrounding the community of Cape Dorset.

In the 1992-93 fiscal year the department provided the community of Lake Harbour with $20,000 for a season hosting program and $12,000 for an oral history project. Stories and legends taken from the oral history project are planned to be used in upcoming tourist pamphlets, park signs and brochures.

For the 1993 fiscal year we have set aside $75,000 in our capital plan for continued development of the park. This would include producing brochures, posters, signs, laying out trails and completing archaeological investigations. The local park advisory committee, made up of Kananginak Pootoogook, Maioni Ashoona and Doug Workman, has also been successful in securing funds from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment Programs for identifying traditional place names in and around the park.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, as a means of promoting visitation to the park, a section on Malikjuaq Park has been included in the recently produced Baffin handbook. This book will be on sale at many retail outlets throughout Canada and at northern visitor centres. It will provide visitors to the north with greater exposure to the many attractions in the Baffin region including Malikjuaq Park. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Mr. Pollard.

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to a question asked by Ms. Marie-Jewell on March 19, 1993. It concerns the review of the freshwater fish marketing agreement.

Mr. Speaker, further to the response given to the Member for Thebacha by the Premier on March 19, the Department of Economic Development and Tourism will be requesting the Department of Justice to review the agreement between the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation and the Government of the Northwest Territories respecting the marketing of freshwater fish. Specifically, the review will focus on the prospects for, and implications of the Northwest Territories getting out of that agreement. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Nerysoo.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Arngna'naaq on March 8, 1993, with regard to an assault in Arviat high school.

On February 17, 1993, an adult approached two students who were standing outside Qitiqliq High School during the afternoon recess, and assaulted one of them. The school called the RCMP, and the student who was assaulted gave the officer a statement but did not want to press charges.

The school and the community education council investigated the possibility of laying charges under the Criminal Code, and the RCMP officer advised them not to proceed. A teacher, the school, or the community education council can report any incidents to the RCMP and encourage the laying of charges. However, in the end the police officer makes the decision to lay a charge.

School authorities are responsible for the supervision and general protection of students. The school and the community education council did report the assault, and did encourage the policy officer to lay charges under the Criminal Code. The school contacted the Northwest Territories Teachers' Association and the association has written the RCMP about this incident, and are awaiting an answer.

There are also other actions school authorities can taken to try to protect the students. The Education Act allows a teacher to exclude any person who has created a disturbance from school premises. The Northwest Territories Teachers' Association and the Department responsible for Education, Culture and Employment Programs are continuing to look into what took place following the assault in Arviat, and are working to ensure that school authorities have the information and advice they need to do their part to protect students in school and on school premises. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to a question asked by Mr. Lewis on March 19, 1993, and it concerns the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the problem on the lake is twofold, declining process for the catch and debt load. The Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation (FFMC) extends credit to fishermen in its jurisdictions, and those are advances on future catches. This is to assist the fishermen in getting out onto the lake and catching more fish. The corporation has allowed debts to accumulate. The accumulation of a large debt load and constantly declining prices for whitefish have made it difficult for even the best fishermen to make a living.

At one point, the FFMC was taking 40 per cent off the gross price received by some of the operators, for fish delivered, and that was just to service the debt. This policy crippled the operations of some fishermen and threatened the long-term viability of others. The corporation finally assigned a full-time credit manager to the Great Slave Lake fishery to restructure the credit policy for the lake and advise fishermen on financial operations.

All large operators with excessive debt were offered credit programs tailored to their operations. Some chose not to participate. For those who did, this new policy combined with a very good price for winter whitefish and high catch rates this winter have resulted in a considerable decrease in the debt load accumulated in the fishery. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Mike.

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a response to an oral question asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 15, 1993, regarding the implications of a regional hospital in Keewatin.

Mr. Speaker, in response to a question asked by the Member for Baffin South on March 15, 1993, I wish to advise this House that the Keewatin regional health board and a steering committee are currently determining the health service needs of the region, and completing a role study for a regional health facility.

Mr. Speaker, the concerns of Sanikiluaq residents are being considered during this review which I expect to have completed by May 1, 1993. At that time I will contact the Member for Baffin South to work with him on the issue of health services for Sanikiluaq residents. Thank you.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Ningark on March 25, 1993, concerning the EDO at Pelly Bay.

Mr. Speaker, the screening is completed and we are ready to conduct the interviews along with the community. There is no housing available at the present time until the house is renovated. We made some arrangements, other than housing them in Pelly Bay until such time as the house is renovated. The process is well under way, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question, asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 24, 1993, concerning the Katannilik Park opening.

The land which the new territorial park near Lake Harbour sits on has to be transferred. The formal request for transfer of land to the territorial government is now being processed by the federal government. Once the land is transferred we will sit down, with the help of the community, and plan an official opening of the park. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 19, 1993, concerning the feasibility study of the wood pellet plant.

Mr. Speaker, the study was completed in mid-December and the result of the study was that the operation of a pellet mill in the Northwest Territories could generally be economically viable assuming it was located in proximity to a viable feeder stock. It also had to be in close proximity to a transportation system and an adequate and economic electricity supply. The size of the facility for break even was estimated at 40,000 tons per annum. This assumes that a market for the pellets could be found.

At present, there is not a sufficient number of pellet stoves in the Northwest Territories to use even five per cent of the production. The cost of phase I of the study was shared 50/50 each by the Northwest Territories Development Corporation and the Science Institute. Phase II of the study involves finding a market for the product. Phase II will study the feasibility of a gasification system which would provide a stable market for a significant portion of the pellets. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Patterson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Wednesday, this week, the Minister of Justice seemed to suggest Members were using information that was not accurate in questions which were asked of him. I wonder if the Minister could explain what he meant by those comments? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Point of order, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe the Minister is aware, and I do not appreciate the suggestion of not knowing the acts. Mr. Speaker, under the Criminal Code of Canada which looks after young offenders, under the Criminal Code which is not territorial, the Young Offenders Act looks after both open custody and secure custody under the Criminal Code of Canada. Thank you.

That is a point of debate, not a point of order. Mr. Kakfwi.

Item 5, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Mr. Speaker, I was just trying to obtain a copy of the capital budget to get clarification. I know as a Member of the Standing Committee on Finance, when we go through the budget, we review the different tasks in the details of the budget. In the details of the budget, and I pose this question to the Minister of Justice, there is one page specifically for the young offenders' facility in Fort Smith that states "maximum secure facility." Why does he have the detail of that budget designated as a maximum secure facility, when now he is saying it is not a secure facility? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Mr. Speaker, I am not asking about the legislation. I am asking the Minister why that particular page in the budget is designated for funds to be approved in this House as a maximum secure facility, when he is now saying to us that he has no secure facilities or no obligation to look at only secure facilities? That is misleading to this House, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, since he does not know what is in his budget, would he review his budget book to see what he is asking Members to approve in this House? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Social Services. Mr. Speaker, about three weeks ago I asked a question to the Minister with regard to the lease of office space, which was arranged by the former Minister, on the Hay River reserve. I received a letter on Monday and the reserve has indicated that there has not been any arrangements of any kind with regard to that lease. I would like to ask the Minister if she has had the opportunity to review the arrangement. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Baffin Central.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The lease is done through DPW, so I would ask Mr. Morin to respond to your question. Thank you.

Before I recognize the Minister for DPW, Mr. Gargan, you have to repeat your question to another Minister. Mr. Gargan.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question to the Minister of DPW, Mr. Morin. Mr. Morin is aware that an arrangement for leasing space was made between the Hay River reserve and the Department of Social Services. A letter of commitment was already sent before Christmas with regard to that arrangement. At that time, the letter indicated that the arrangement is referred to DPW for them to assess the space and cost and to finalize the agreement. I would like to ask the Minister if his department has consulted with the reserve on that lease. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know if my department has consulted with the reserve on this lease. The normal procedures is, once we are requested by the department to supply a lease, we consult with the people who would be supplying the building. Thank you.

Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.

Is the Minister taking the question as notice?

Mr. Morin.

Thank you. Okay, yes.

Thank you. The Minister is taking the question as notice. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan, new question.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been going over all the questions I have asked and my intention is to bring them up every Friday, when they have not been responded to. My other question is to the Deputy Government Leader, Mr. Pollard, and it is with regard to emergency communication equipment for the reserve. I raised that question two weeks ago and I would like to ask the Minister whether arrangements have been made for the reserve to obtain that equipment in the event of a flood. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Hay River.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the question is: Will the reserve have equipment for emergency communications during the spring break-up? The answer to that is, yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in previous years, there has been equipment loaned to the reserve from the emergency measures people in Yellowknife with the Government of the Northwest Territories. At times, there has been some leasing of radios so the reserve could have communication. What has been happening is that the government and the reserve have been working together under the JEPP program to access federal funds so the reserve would have ownership of some communication equipment.

Yes, they will have communication equipment, whether or not the funding has come through from the federal government with regard to buying their own, I do not know. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, we do not review the contracts. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I said we do not review the tendering. We do not review the actual tender with hamlets, but we do monitor them. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The monitoring is done by the contracts division of the Department of Government Services and Public Works. Contracts let by hamlets are supposed to be used in the business incentive policy. My understanding is, Cabinet direction was that anyone receiving $.51 on a dollar from this government will use the business incentive policy. In the communication with the hamlets, through MACA, instead of the word "will," it says "may." There is some discretion that has to be cleared up. It will be cleared up in a very short period of time. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know the exact process of how that is handled, so I will take that as notice and get back to the Member.

The question has been taken as notice. Item 5, oral questions. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Culture and Communications. An elder in my constituency has completed a book. I have been trying to find out how she can receive assistance in getting this book published. It is a native elderly women who is trying to get this book published. Is there any type of program or funding assistance, through his department, that would assist the native woman to public this book? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Nerysoo.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe there might be some financial resources which could be accessed. However, if I could ask the honourable Member to give me the details and the person who we could contact to assist that individual to access, not only territorial government money, but federal financing as well.

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am very grateful for that reply. It is unfortunate, sometimes, that we cannot get the same type of reply from other Ministers, but, Mr. Speaker, I have a question to another Minister, the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism. I thank the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism for replying with regard to the concerns expressed on the pellet plant, the feasibility study. He indicated they are going into phase II of the study, which involves finding a market for the product and the feasibility of a gasification system. Would the Minister know the purpose of the feasibility of a gasification system with regard to providing a stable market for these significant portions of the pellets? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Pollard.

Mr. Speaker, it is a question of volume. If there was a gasification plant, it would use considerable amounts of these pellets, which would take up a great deal of the volume of the production by a plant. Break even for a facility would be 40,000 tons per annum. If there was a gasification plant, it would eat up a great deal of that 40,000 tons and make the project viable. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see that it is connected to the electricity part of production. Reading further on his reply to oral questions, I recognize that he indicated that. Does the Minister know when the phase II portion of the study will be started and when it will be completed? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Pollard.

Mr. Speaker, I do not know the exact dates, but I would certainly like to see the second part of that feasibility finished by the end of this summer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I received a letter of support with respect to this pellet plant concept. The town of Fort Smith has certainly supported the idea of it to be considered and to even be located in Fort Smith, because of the inexpensive power rates we are privileged to have. The proximity with regard to the viability of having access to the many trees within our area would also be of significant benefit. Has there been any indication by the department or the government as to the location for this particular pellet plant? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Pollard.

No, Mr. Speaker, there has not, although, I am aware that Fort Smith, since the outset of this study, has been following it very closely. They have made it known to me on many occasions that they are extremely interested in this particular plant. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice a further question with respect to the change on the young offenders' facility. The Minister of Justice has indicated many times in this House that he has made many public statements about working closely with aboriginal organizations. The Minister is aware that I tabled a letter in this House jointly signed by the president of the Metis Nation and the chief of the Fort Smith band. This joint correspondence was, in my view, fairly critical of the Minister's plan to change the designation of the young offenders' facility change by his department. When the Minister made the statement that everyone agrees with this young offenders' facility plan, how does he justify making such a statement when there are concerns from the aboriginal organizations of the community, the town council and the union with regard to this change? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Before I recognize the Member for Thebacha, I would like to recognize in the gallery, a former Member of Parliament and also a former Member of the Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly, Dave Nickerson.

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Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Whether the Minister is aware of it or not, I did meet with the staff on the past two Sundays in Fort Smith; once with the union in presence and once without. There is no doubt that the staff has direction to make the best of a decision, but I know they are not pleased with having to, what they call, de-program themselves to look after young offenders who have committed serious crimes in the communities. They have to train themselves and take every security precaution with other young offenders they are now being directed to look after who have open custody and less security, and trying to mix the two programs in one facility. I asked the Minister a question not concerning the staff. I told him the town council is concerned, the band is concerned, the Metis local is concerned, as far as I know even the chamber of commerce is concerned and the union is concerned. The Minister can come in this House and say, "Everyone agrees with that, everyone agrees with the concept of me moving the facility from a secure to an open custody." How does he justify making that statement after recognizing the type of letters which have been tabled in this House? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has indicated they are trying to justify the use of the facility with the low number of beds to try to make it more flexible, and I recognize that. However, at the same time the Minister must recognize that under the Young Offenders Act, it is questionable whether he is following that particular legislation, not only under territorial legislation but under federal legislation with the Canada Corrections Act which looks after young offenders who commit serious crimes, such as murders. The territorial Young Offenders Act looks after minor crimes, break and enters and liquor offence crimes. I do not know whether the spirit and intent of trying to utilize a facility, mixing these two types of young offenders, who have committed two very serious types of crimes together under one facility, is doing justice to the young offenders.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has stated there would be no extra funds for renovations. Can he commit, in this House, that he as the Minister will ensure there will be no supplementary funding requests, no additional funding to renovate that secure facility to house young offenders under open custody? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Mr. Kakfwi, could you stick to answering the question. Thank you.

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Mr. Speaker, if anyone does not listen in this House it is the Minister. When Members bring up concerns he goes all around the question, he never answers the question. I will ask him again. Since the Minister indicated in this House that he said, there will be no structural changes, there will be no additional money, and awhile ago he said he has to retrain the staff, so therefore, there is additional money. However, he said there would be no additional funding requested to make a structural change of that building to house young offenders in an open custody setting because now it looks after young offenders in a secure custody. Can the Minister assure this House that he will ask for no supplementary dollars in the budget in the future, he will ask for no additional funding in any way whether it is through special warrant, supplementary or interactivity transfers in the budget to ensure that he modifies that facility to accommodate the spirit and intent of legislation to look after open custody? Will he make that commitment? It is a simple yes or no, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.