This is page numbers 1207 - 1227 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was facility.

Return To Question 440-12(3): Assault In Arviat High School
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question 543-12(3): Circumstances Leading To The Fisheries Decline
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to a question asked by Mr. Lewis on March 19, 1993, and it concerns the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the problem on the lake is twofold, declining process for the catch and debt load. The Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation (FFMC) extends credit to fishermen in its jurisdictions, and those are advances on future catches. This is to assist the fishermen in getting out onto the lake and catching more fish. The corporation has allowed debts to accumulate. The accumulation of a large debt load and constantly declining prices for whitefish have made it difficult for even the best fishermen to make a living.

At one point, the FFMC was taking 40 per cent off the gross price received by some of the operators, for fish delivered, and that was just to service the debt. This policy crippled the operations of some fishermen and threatened the long-term viability of others. The corporation finally assigned a full-time credit manager to the Great Slave Lake fishery to restructure the credit policy for the lake and advise fishermen on financial operations.

All large operators with excessive debt were offered credit programs tailored to their operations. Some chose not to participate. For those who did, this new policy combined with a very good price for winter whitefish and high catch rates this winter have resulted in a considerable decrease in the debt load accumulated in the fishery. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 543-12(3): Circumstances Leading To The Fisheries Decline
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Mike.

Return To Question 488-12(3): Implications Of Regional Hospital In Keewatin
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a response to an oral question asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 15, 1993, regarding the implications of a regional hospital in Keewatin.

Mr. Speaker, in response to a question asked by the Member for Baffin South on March 15, 1993, I wish to advise this House that the Keewatin regional health board and a steering committee are currently determining the health service needs of the region, and completing a role study for a regional health facility.

Mr. Speaker, the concerns of Sanikiluaq residents are being considered during this review which I expect to have completed by May 1, 1993. At that time I will contact the Member for Baffin South to work with him on the issue of health services for Sanikiluaq residents. Thank you.

Return To Question 488-12(3): Implications Of Regional Hospital In Keewatin
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question 597-12(3): Economic Development Officer For Pelly Bay
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Ningark on March 25, 1993, concerning the EDO at Pelly Bay.

Mr. Speaker, the screening is completed and we are ready to conduct the interviews along with the community. There is no housing available at the present time until the house is renovated. We made some arrangements, other than housing them in Pelly Bay until such time as the house is renovated. The process is well under way, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Return To Question 597-12(3): Economic Development Officer For Pelly Bay
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question 580-12(3): Official Opening Of Katannilik Park
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question, asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 24, 1993, concerning the Katannilik Park opening.

The land which the new territorial park near Lake Harbour sits on has to be transferred. The formal request for transfer of land to the territorial government is now being processed by the federal government. Once the land is transferred we will sit down, with the help of the community, and plan an official opening of the park. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 580-12(3): Official Opening Of Katannilik Park
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question 547-12(3): Feasibility Study Re Wood Pellet Plant
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 19, 1993, concerning the feasibility study of the wood pellet plant.

Mr. Speaker, the study was completed in mid-December and the result of the study was that the operation of a pellet mill in the Northwest Territories could generally be economically viable assuming it was located in proximity to a viable feeder stock. It also had to be in close proximity to a transportation system and an adequate and economic electricity supply. The size of the facility for break even was estimated at 40,000 tons per annum. This assumes that a market for the pellets could be found.

At present, there is not a sufficient number of pellet stoves in the Northwest Territories to use even five per cent of the production. The cost of phase I of the study was shared 50/50 each by the Northwest Territories Development Corporation and the Science Institute. Phase II of the study involves finding a market for the product. Phase II will study the feasibility of a gasification system which would provide a stable market for a significant portion of the pellets. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 547-12(3): Feasibility Study Re Wood Pellet Plant
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Patterson.

Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Item 5: Oral Questions

March 25th, 1993

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Wednesday, this week, the Minister of Justice seemed to suggest Members were using information that was not accurate in questions which were asked of him. I wonder if the Minister could explain what he meant by those comments? Thank you.

Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I wish to apologize to the Members of the House for implying that all of them do not do their homework and that they all use information which is not factually accurate. However, I wish to point out an example of the reason for my concern.

There have been letters tabled from the union regarding the River Ridge issue. There have been letters from the chief of the Metis local of Fort Smith which have also been tabled. There have been statements recorded in Hansard, there are certain definitions which are used by the Member for Thebacha. For instance, she said at one point in her Member's statement on March 16, that there is such an institution as a maximum secure facility. The Member used it more than five times in her Member's statement. She went on to say later that there are three levels of facilities for housing young offenders, maximum secure facilities, secure facilities and open custody placements. At no time was the Member corrected, although in my responses I indicated there were only two. There is open custody and there is closed custody. I point to this because a member of the union from Fort Smith wrote a letter in the Fort Smith newspaper and uses some of this information, I feel, to perhaps mislead himself. For instance, he talks about a semi-secure facility. Again, there is no such facility or such classification. He also mentions that we are re-designating a facility. What we are doing, in fact, is giving it a triple designation.

That was the reason I raised this because we are starting to table letters from the union and people in the public who depend on the Hansard and statements made in this House to inform themselves and then raise concerns.

For instance, on March 18, the Member for Thebacha went on to say that, "It has always been my understanding that there are three categories of young offenders according to the Corrections Act." Again, the Corrections Act does not deal with young offenders. It is the Young Offenders Act which deals with them. I have had some concern about it and I do not know that there have been any corrections made of these statements.

Return To Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Point of order, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe the Minister is aware, and I do not appreciate the suggestion of not knowing the acts. Mr. Speaker, under the Criminal Code of Canada which looks after young offenders, under the Criminal Code which is not territorial, the Young Offenders Act looks after both open custody and secure custody under the Criminal Code of Canada. Thank you.

Return To Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

That is a point of debate, not a point of order. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

In response to the question from the Member for Iqaluit, I would like to apologize to the House for the statement which I made on that day.

Return To Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Question 601-12(3): Minister's Comments Re "inaccurate Statements"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Item 5, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I was just trying to obtain a copy of the capital budget to get clarification. I know as a Member of the Standing Committee on Finance, when we go through the budget, we review the different tasks in the details of the budget. In the details of the budget, and I pose this question to the Minister of Justice, there is one page specifically for the young offenders' facility in Fort Smith that states "maximum secure facility." Why does he have the detail of that budget designated as a maximum secure facility, when now he is saying it is not a secure facility? Thank you.

Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I do not know what the page in the budget book says, I just know in legislation there are two classifications for facilities that deal with young offenders. There is open custody and closed custody.

Return To Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Supplementary, Member for Thebacha.

Supplementary To Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I am not asking about the legislation. I am asking the Minister why that particular page in the budget is designated for funds to be approved in this House as a maximum secure facility, when he is now saying to us that he has no secure facilities or no obligation to look at only secure facilities? That is misleading to this House, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, since he does not know what is in his budget, would he review his budget book to see what he is asking Members to approve in this House? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Question 602-12(3): Reference In Scof Books To "maximum Secure Facility"
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.