Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Madam Minister.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do scientific research through the NWT Science Institute. If there is any research being carried out by the department, it is done within policy. Thank you.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
The Minister is indicating they have policies to regulate internal research practices of the department. I wonder if the Minister can provide that particular policy which governs what I have just outlined.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May I get clarification? When the Member used the word "internal" research, does he mean research within our department? Could he provide me with an example of what type of research he is referring to, as it might help me respond. Thank you.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, "internal" means "within." I am asking for research within the department. The Minister indicated that there are policies which regulate internal research practices of the department. I am seeking a copy of that particular policy, if she would table it in committee. Thank you.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When he was talking about research, I assumed that he was talking about any kind of medical research being carried out, that is why I said that any research which is being done is usually carried out through the NWT Science Institute.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
That is strange, Mr. Chairman. When the departmental officials appeared on January 8, before the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, they indicated that some research work is also carried out within the Department of Health. The Minister is indicating to me that it is not. Who is telling the truth? In our public hearings on January 8, the department told us they were undertaking research within the department. The Minister is now saying they do not. Who am I to believe?
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is a difference between research being conducted within the department and internal research. Those two have different meanings. If we are going to conduct scientific research, a licence is obtained
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, perhaps the Minister did not understand my question. Who do I believe, the Minister or the departmental officials who, are quoted on January 8, said they do some research work within the Department of Health. The answer which I received from the Minister does not tell me who to believe, is it the department or the Minister?
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Zoe. For clarity, the Minister may wish to elaborate on the different types of research that may be undertaken by the department, whether it is of a scientific nature, which requires external research people, or research work for internal purposes perhaps. I am only trying to assist, Madam Minister. Madam Minister.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know what Mr. Zoe is saying. There is a difference between internal and within. Health research is usually applied research and runs into department activities, surveillance and monitoring. This is the kind of research I was talking about. I understood the Member when he was talking about internal research, we do our own research within our own department with divisions. Thank you.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, perhaps I will quote from the proceedings of January 8. I am not sure if the Minister has a copy of the proceedings of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, Tabled Document 13-12(3). On page 23, the department responded by saying, "The aspect of research has been commented on in the Auditor General's report. Exception is taken to the statement that the department has no resources
Mr. Chairman, that is why I am asking that particular question. I think it was Mr. Bower who was the official who made that particular statement. That is why I am asking if the Minister had policies which regulate internal research of her department, Mr. Chairman.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Mr. Chairman, I am having difficulty with the words "internal research" because this has quite a different meaning, at least for me. I would say for internal research we do not have a policy because internal research to me is having the ability to do the research in another section of the Department of Health. Thank you.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Now I am really confused, Mr. Chairman. Just a while ago the Minister indicated they had a policy pertaining to that, now she is saying that there are no policies regulating the internal research of the department. Which one is it? Either you do, or you do not, have policies.
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