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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Dent is recommending that we continue with Bill 6. Do we have the concurrence of the committee that we continue with that bill?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

We were finished with clause 4. Clause 5. Agreed? Oh, very important. At the witness table is the Minister. Mr. Minister, would you again like to bring in your witnesses to the witness table?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, could you escort in the witnesses.

Thank you. Mr. Minister, for the record, would you introduce the witnesses to the committee.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, thank you. On my left is the deputy minister of Justice, Don Avison. On my immediate right is Mark Aitken, legal counsel from the legislative division. The chair on his right will be taken by Mr. Sutton, director of policy, Department of Justice.

Clause By Clause

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister, for the introduction. Clause 5. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 6.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 7. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, we have a motion to suggest to amend clause 7.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister, proceed.

Committee Motion 20-12(6): To Amend Clause 7, Carried
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October 13th, 1994

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

The motion reads that clause 7 of Bill 6 be amended by adding the following after subsection 2:

(3) The head of a public body shall give access to a record in the official language of the Northwest Territories requested by an applicant where

(a)the record already exists in the control of the public body in that language; or

(b)the head of a public body considers it to be in the public interest to have a translation of the record prepared in that language.

and

(4) An applicant shall not be required to pay a fee for the translation of a record.

This is the proposed amendment.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

I would like to make a correction, as well. Where I was reading "official language of the territories," it should say "official language of the Northwest Territories."

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister. I believe you wanted to add...Mr. Minister, I believe when you read the motion you said "Northwest Territories." According to what is written here, it is "territories" but there is no "Northwest."

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, it's my mistake again. It should read as...I didn't read it properly, so I'll just read it again as it should go into Hansard.

(3) The head of a public body shall give access to a record in the official language of the territories requested by an applicant where...

That's the way it should be read.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. A motion is recommended and the amendment is in order. Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister whether there were any estimates given of the amount of revenue that would be received from charging a fee for access requests. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Avison will answer the question.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Avison.

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Avison

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In answer to the question, the answer is no. The estimates did not include any assessment of what the revenue might be from fees that would be levied. They are, in effect, a best guess of what would be generated and what the costs would be. Given that it's new legislation, we do not have a sense at this point other than through speculation of what kind of fees might be generated. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Patterson.