Thank you, Mr. Dent. Your motion is in order. To the motion.
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Committee Motion 39-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 9, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Committee Motion 39-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 9, Carried
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An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 39-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 9, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the committee recommends that the NWT Housing Corporation finalize a plan for transferring responsibility for staff housing from the Department of Personnel and the Department of Public Works and Services to the corporation by April 1, 1995, and that the plan be presented to the House during the winter session before March 31, 1995.
Committee Motion 40-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Thank you, Mr. Dent. Your motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 40-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
That concludes the remarks from the Minister and the Standing Committee on Finance. Any general comments? Mr. Minister, would you like to bring your witnesses into the House? Mr. Morin.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Okay. Do Members have any objections? There are none, so please bring in your witnesses.
For the record, please introduce your witnesses.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To my right is Al Menard, president of the Housing Corporation. To my left is Dave Murray, vice-president of programs.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Thank you, Mr. Morin. Now you will be able to listen to any general comments, statements or
questions Members may want to ask. General comments. Do you want to go into the detail? Mr. Gargan.
General Comments
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to touch a bit on the needs survey that was done in 1992 regarding the housing needs and requirements. The needs of the housing survey are based on households. Do you also put the population of the communities into the needs surveys? In Fort Liard, for example, there are 140 households. It doesn't talk about the population itself. How do you come up with the numbers?
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Mr. Morin.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The needs survey that was done was done in conjunction with the communities. For example, in Mr. Gargan's area, it would have been done with a Slavey speaking person picked by the community, as well as a person from the NWT Housing Corporation and they would have gone from house to house and surveyed every person in the community and the number reflect the actual number of people in need. Thank you.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Thank you. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
So if you look at the scale for Fort Providence, you would have 200 households with housing problems. In Providence, the average population is 700.
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Mr. Morin.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. According to the social housing need study that was done in 1992, in Fort Providence, we had 44 people in need of housing.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
So, the numbers really don't have anything to do with population.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
Mr. Morin.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The numbers reflect the people who are in need.
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The Chair Brian Lewis
General comments. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You indicated 44 people in need, 44 would be part of what number that was surveyed?
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Mr. Morin.