Mr. Chairman, so far, we have not spent any money as a result of amendments to the quarry that Mr. Gargan is talking about. Perhaps I could get clarification when he's talking about a legal issue. I am not quite sure which issue he is talking about.

Thank you. Mr. Gargan.

Mr. Chairman, I don't know if this is O and M or not. I was just trying to suggest that because gravel is part of capital, I was just wondering whether we resolved the old issue of travel and the legal issue. We had to refer back to 1963 when the Commissioner's Land Act came into force. The municipal acts came into force, but in order to address the legal issue, we went back to 1963 regarding gravel to communities. Either the municipalities own it or they don't own it. I think that was the whole issue. I'm just wondering if you had resolved that.

Thank you. Madam Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The issue is not so much on the ownership, but the passage of that legislation made it more explicit for the municipal governments to be operating a quarry.

Thank you. General comments. Are you ready for details?

Agreed.

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Line By Line

Directorate

Of course you are. Section 11, page 9. Directorate, equipment acquisition, headquarters, total

region, $40,000.

Agreed.

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Agreed. Thank you. Total equipment acquisition, $40,000.

Agreed.

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Total activity for this page is $40,000.

Agreed.

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Community Planning

Thank you. Page 11-11, community planing, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $1.028 million.

Agreed.

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Thank you. Fort Smith. Mr. Gargan.

Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the department whether or not...Two years ago in Fort Providence, or thereabouts, they did a community plan. Once they do that, does the department plan the necessary dollars for the community plan to come into effect, or are those plans used but not compulsory, for lack of a better word.

Qujannamiik. Madam Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Those plans are not binding. The council can change them through a by-law.

Thank you. Fort Smith, total region, $1.552 million. Mr. Gargan.

Mr. Chairman, in Providence, for example, the community plan affects all the departments. It affects Transportation, the nursing station, Education and a lot of the other departments when you do that planning. I'm just wondering if there are efforts. I realize you said you could change it through the hamlet council, but what I would like to know is whether the plans themselves are also being collaborated in cooperation with other departments in order for the plan to come into effect. If one department doesn't do it and others do, the whole purpose of the exercise is really a waste of time. If you can't tell the nursing station that we'd like to use that area for residential areas, and we wanted to plan based on the wishes of the community, I guess if they say no then we have a problem. I'm just wondering if you have a way of dealing with it.

Thank you. I will let the honourable Minister respond to Mr. Gargan's question, but after that, I will recognize the clock. Madam Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, the department does work with other departments, and community consultation and public meetings take place as well so that there are no problems that are cropping up later on.

Thank you. The hour being 6:00, I will rise and report progress. Thank you, Madam Minister, and thank you, witnesses, on behalf of the committee. Thank you again.