I understand what the Minister is saying. When you have the departmental staff holding workshops explaining what the community transfer initiative is all about, and if the community expresses a strong interest and says, we want to seriously look at housing or any other program within that
community transfer initiative, then the department has to, in cooperation with the community, come up with a process to determine if their capability is there or not. How do you establish that? Who has the final say? It is supposed to be a joint venture.
For instance, if I am the municipality and I am saying, I think I am capable of it," and I give you all my strong points, but the department may say, well, we don't think you are capable of doing this, or you are weak in this area. We figure you require training. In order to determine their capability, it could come up and say, we think we have the capabilities, but if you don't think that we do, then let's get an independent person or consultant to determine what capabilities are there or not. That all takes money.
How are decisions made about who gets the money and who doesn't? That is the bottom line. Who makes the ultimate decisions? My understanding is that you are supposed to go there and say, this is available to you. We are both supposed to do it together to see if the municipality is capable and try to assist them, if there is good likelihood that they are capable. Perhaps they are weak in some areas, but through their negotiations, perhaps they can incorporate training and these other things into their negotiations to cover their weak areas. In order for them to start developing this, it requires money. How does the ministry give them money? On what basis? Do you understand what I am trying to get at? Although the definitive objective says that, I don't know if that is being followed. Thank you.