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Subsidies For Small Businesses
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Keewatin Central. The Member for Aivilik had some tirades, too.

---Laughter

Madam Speaker, I am going to screw up my courage and gird my loins...

Subsidies For Small Businesses
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Some Hon. Members

Ooh!

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

(Microphone turned off)

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Some Hon. Members

(Microphones turned off)

---Laughter

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

I am going to dare to ask some thoughtful questions about the Baffin fishery and even about the Pangnirtung fishery, not because I am against the jobs that have been created in Pangnirtung, but because I want to make sure we don't follow the Newfoundland model in Baffin Island. So, Madam Speaker, I hope the discussion will be reasonable and my questions can be answered openly and without undue defensiveness. Thank you.

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Subsidies For Small Businesses
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

Differences Between Cultures On Use Of Wildlife
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will be making a statement on a book I read called the "Pied Piper of Hamelin." I have to return it by the end of the month, so I thought maybe I should make a statement now.

Madam Speaker, I listened, with interest, to the Minister of Renewable Resources the other day when he described the killing of thousands of muskrats in Holland. Because these rats do damage to the dykes in Holland, they are trapped and killed. The Europeans, being fine moral people, would never use the pelts or meat for anything useful. Instead, the carcasses are thrown into the ocean. Madam Speaker, the major reason Europeans are so interested in what goes on in our country when it comes to wildlife is that they have managed to kill off most of their own.

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Vast tracks of forest have been laid to waste by the poisonous emission of their factories.

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One only has to look at the difference between our own history and legends and the European legends which are aptly called "fairy tales."

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In our Dene legends, harmony with nature and the land is stressed. In the European tradition, in fairy tales such as Little Red Riding Hood and the Pied Piper of Hamelin, the rats always get theirs in the end.

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An Hon. Member

That is right.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

With this type of cultural education, it is little wonder that there is not much free wildlife in Europe. Madam Speaker, maybe we could write our own fairy tales for the north, a little politically correct one, something like the Pied Piper of Rankin.

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We could have the honourable Member as the hero of the story, maybe something along the lines of piping all the seals out of the water onto the ice, where it would be reasonable to be harvested and the vast majority allowed to return to the waters.

Madam Speaker, this silly example I used illustrates the difference between the aboriginal and the European cultures. Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue my statement.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and honourable Members. Madam Speaker, this silly example I used illustrates the difference between the aboriginal and the European cultures. We look at the seal or the caribou as a resource, a source of food that has to be managed responsibly for the benefit of present and future generations. The Europeans and their collective guilt for having killed off their own wildlife have a romantic notion of what nature is. They cannot understanding our living in harmony with the land around us.

Madam Speaker, in the Pied Piper of Hamelin, there is a poem which goes as follows: "Each children has its worth, each death will be paid. A promise is kept, a promise is made or a time will come for the piper to play and charm all hope of our future away." This is the basic moral of this fairy tale. What we have to make the Europeans understand is that we, as aboriginal people, realize where our future is. We, as a government, have promised to do everything possible to ensure wildlife will exist for our future generations. Madam Speaker, I plan to write a book, if I ever get out of politics, called "Discovering Europe from an Aboriginal Perspective." Of course that means I have to go on a fact-finding trip. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Laughter

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I wish to return to item 2, Ministers' statements.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Madam Premier is seeking unanimous consent to return to Ministers' statements. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed.

Minister's Statement 51-12(5): Response To The Special Committee On Health And Social Services
Revert Back To Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the report of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services was tabled in this House on November 18, 1993. This report was a major undertaking and reflects input received from people across the north. It calls for fundamental changes in health and social service programs throughout the Northwest Territories and will have a significant impact on the way several government departments deliver services.

I will be tabling the government's response to this report within a week. The extra time being taken beyond the 120 days requested by Members is to allow for translation and to allow for the incorporation of input from all Ministers.

I would, once again, like to thank the committee for their work and to reaffirm that the development of a comprehensive response is being treated with the utmost importance by the government. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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