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Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Sorry, yes, I was having a casual conversation with my colleague about fish boxes.

---Laughter

Yes, Mr. Chairman, sorry.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

I understand that you were attempting to bury the hatchet with Mr. Patterson. Would you take the witness chair, please. Thank you, Sergeant-at-Arms, for escorting the witnesses to the table. Mr. Minister, would you introduce your witness to the committee.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my immediate right is Mr. Nicholls, the deputy minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources. Thank you.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. General comments. Member for Kitikmeot, Mr. Ng.

General Comments

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a quick question. What is the status of the minerals strategy that we have been anxiously awaiting in this Assembly? Thank you.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

It is at the printer right now, and hopefully we'll be able to table it next week. Thank you.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. Member for Nahendeh.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. From the time the Standing Committee on Finance completed their report until now, there have been some developments with the northern accord. The Minister earlier this session made a Minister's statement regarding a trip he made to Ottawa when he met with the Minister of Energy and other Ministers about the northern accord. The Minister indicated to us that the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development has more or less committed himself to negotiate the northern accord.

I would like to ask the Minister, what does he mean by the Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs agreeing to negotiate this northern accord? Does it mean that there are negotiations currently taking place now or negotiations are going to start? If so, what kind of time frame are we looking at for conclusion of the northern accord? Has any agreement been reached with the Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs? Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Minister Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

As the honourable Member stated, we did reach an understanding, if you want, with the Honourable Ron Irwin that we will move forward on the transfer of oil and gas and mineral responsibilities. We have an agreement that bureaucrats will discuss the process for it. I think it would be fair to say that our colleague, Mr. Irwin, stressed that we had to do a significant amount of work with the aboriginal groups, whether it is First Nations, as in Treaty 8, or with claimant groups, like the Sahtu and the Gwich'in.

I assured him, as I've assured this House on a number of occasions, that it is our intention to have significant discussions with the aboriginal people with respect to an accord and with the others who are involved as well. There are no negotiations currently under way, we are working out -- my favourite word -- a process. We're feeling out where people sit politically on this issue.

I recognize that this could be a very controversial issue. However, I feel very strongly that our financial viability would be enhanced if we had an accord that protects the interests of all northerners with respect to mineral and oil and gas devolution. Discussions are under way, at a very preliminary stage, with some of the aboriginal groups. Mr. Nicholls will be discussing the process with Mr. Rayner at that level. I will keep this House and all those people who want to be up to date on the developments as we move forward. Because, this is a very, very delicate issue.

Committee Motion 33-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 17, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. Does the committee agree that we go item by item?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Line By Line

Energy, Mines And Petroleum Resources

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources, page 16-10, total O and M, $4.777 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Details of grants and contributions. Contributions, $1.169 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Grants and contributions, $1.169 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Information item, NWT Power Corporation. Detail of work performed on behalf of third parties. Total department, $38,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Program summary, total O and M. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

A review was done on the issue of privatizing the Power Corporation. What is the status on that?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I am not responsible for that. I should indicate to the honourable Member and colleagues that because I have responsibility for the Public Utilities Board, we have reached an agreement where we don't deal with the NWT Power Corporation situation as we have done in the past, because it could be perhaps viewed as a conflict. That question has to be posed to the Minister responsible, the Premier.