Thank you, Mr. Minister. The honourable Member for Baffin South, Mr. Pudlat.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a comment and a question to raise. I'm not sure if it is more of a question or a comment and I'm not sure I'm directing it to the right Minister. But I have a concern about wildlife being used for food and clothing in the communities. There are often people from the smaller communities brought into larger institutionalized facilities, such as the hospitals or correctional institutes in the larger communities, such as Yellowknife or Iqaluit.
My question is, I wonder if the hunters and trappers in the smaller communities can be involved with Renewable Resources to provide country food to some of the institutions I have mentioned? I wonder if there's a policy that exists with regard to providing country food to larger institutions, such as a commercial institution or the hospitals in the larger regions. Perhaps they already provide some kind of native food to these institutions, but I think there is always lack of country food in hospitals and commercial institutions. I don't know if there is a policy that exists that would provide these types of native food to the local people who are in these institutions. Sometimes, the people who are in these places, such as hospitals and boarding homes and commercial institutions, are there for a long period of time. I feel that they should be provided with more country food. I am concerned about the majority of native people who are in the correctional institution. Also, we had students attending the Ukiivik residence, the parents used to be able to send country food to the students there. I don't know if something like this kind of program exists through Renewable Resources. I wonder which department would be responsible for giving or sending native food to these different institutions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
I have a couple of short comments. There are discussions going on with Renewable Resources and Economic Development on ways in which we could make country food available for consumption to institutions like the hospitals and correctional institutes across the Northwest Territories. For instance, muskox, caribou, other wild meats that are not available because of regulations at this time. We are looking at the meat inspections system which we could implement. Economic Development is looking at some policies. It is something that is shared with everybody.
As a point of interest, people might be interested in getting copies of the weekly menu that we serve at the Yellowknife Correctional Centre and compare it to what most of your constituents get on the table on a weekly basis and see if anybody is actually suffering. That would be something that we will provide. It is from the Minister of Justice. I will make it available to Members so we have it. That is not to say that we are against serving wild meat at correctional centres. This is just for Members' information. We will provide an overview of the kind of menu that we dish out at the correctional centre. Thank you.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. The honourable Member for Baffin South, Mr. Pudlat.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Minister, for the response. I understand that the Department of Economic Development and Tourism is planning on helping to provide country food to those institutions. I think that is what my understanding is. I would like to get some information from the Minister about the other correctional centres. What, in the way of country food, are they provided with as their meal? Thank you.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
There is some country food for commercial sale, but they are very expensive. We will provide to the Member the menus and the type of food served at all correctional institutions across the Northwest Territories. I am sure that there would be some input at least by Members to the type of menus we should strive to provide at these institutions. They should more reflect a menu of local fish and wild meats. We will do that. At this time, it is just incredibly expensive to do. People run these institutions within an allotted budget. As I say, the menus will be provided to Members so they can see for themselves what is provided in these institutions.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot, Mr. Ningark.
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. People who want to do some commercial fishing in my area get confused because sometimes, we are told that it is Economic Development and Tourism which looks after the commercial venture in the area. Sometimes, we are told that we have to go through Renewable Resources. In turn, Renewable Resources will tell us that the federal Fisheries and Oceans has to be involved in this area. I would like to ask the honourable Minister if, in fact, we have federal Fisheries and Oceans staff in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are federal fisheries people in Iqaluit. They are also here in Yellowknife, as far as I know.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Now that we have established that we have federal Fisheries and Oceans staff in
the jurisdiction, I wonder if they make their community visits to all the regions, like Keewatin and Kitikmeot. Do they do their yearly visit to communities or regions at a certain time of the year? Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
I'm not certain that they do, but I am sure, being federal people, they would try to at least visit once a year. That is tradition.
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Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is an individual in my community of Pelly Bay. His name is Guy Kakkianiun. He is a serious commercial fisherman, by his own right, but he is not able to get all the financial assistance and other help from the Department of Renewable Resources or the Department of Economic Development and Tourism. Perhaps the honourable Minister would inform me and the House who is the lead department when it comes to commercial fisheries? Thank you.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
It would be the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the Department of Economic Development and Tourism.
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the primary reason why anyone who wants to start a commercial fishery is not too familiar with the system and how to go about getting financial and other assistance from the system, is that the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans don't come to communities that often. They aren't even present in my region, the Kitikmeot region. What is the procedure if a person wants to talk to the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans about regulations and other things the person is expected to follow, if a person wants to get into the area of commercial fishing? Thank you.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
My suggestion would be for the MLA to direct his constituents to the Department of Economic Development and Tourism. They are very happy to serve the public and do it in a very orderly and simple way. If there's no Department of Economic Development and Tourism person in the community, perhaps they can go to the renewable resource officer and we will help them get a hold of the department. I think someone in that department will provide a simple outline of the way someone should go about setting up their business and give them the required information in an orderly manner. Thank you.
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