This is page numbers 931 - 964 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Members Present

Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq, Mr. Arvaluk, Mr. Ballantyne, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Koe, Mr. Lewis, Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell, Hon. Rebecca Mike, Hon. Don Morin, Hon. Richard Nerysoo, Mr. Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Patterson, Hon. John Pollard, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Hon. John Todd, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier.

Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam, Speaker, I would like to notify the House that the Honourable Silas Arngna'naaq will be leaving the House today after question period to attend the opening of the water treatment plant in Fort Providence. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South, Mr. Pudlat.

Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am going to be making a statement today regarding the relationship between the Housing Corporation and the local housing associations. I have been asked to bring up this subject by people in my constituency. A lot of times it appears that the local housing associations are mouthpieces for the Housing Corporation in passing on information that is unpleasant or controversial. While most of the initiatives for change come from the Housing Corporation, the local housing associations often end up being blamed for controversial decisions such as rent increases and evictions. The local housing associations, at least in my constituency, are often torn between wanting to defend the local tenants and following the instructions of the Housing Association.

Madam Speaker, local housing associations need and want more real authority and powers to make decisions that affect their tenants, and not just to be the bearers of bad news for the Housing Corporation. Thank you.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, as the former chairman of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services, I rise today to welcome the government response to the recommendations made by that committee. That document, called Renewed Partnerships, was tabled yesterday. Madam Speaker, I only briefly reviewed the document but it appears to represent, at least to me, a significant improvement to what I've seen as previous responses to committee reports.

I note it is organized around themes and, in general, it appears to respond in a thoughtful and generally favourable manner to the recommendations made by the committee. In particular, I welcome the agreement to amalgamate the departments of Health and Social Services. I am also very pleased to hear that a community-based mental health pilot project will take place in the Inuvik region in 1994-95. I think it's important to note that the government plans to develop agreements to set up early intervention services for children and another plan for services to elders and the handicapped. Madam Speaker, these are long overdue.

We need more detail on many of the responses and I'm sure the government will have to answer many questions in the House on their response. But, it does appear to represent a positive outlook on dealing with the very important issues highlighted by the final report of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services. Madam Speaker, I hope we can all work together to make sure that both the final report of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services and the government response are more than just words and reports, but the key to real action in dealing with the important health and social problems in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Some Hon. Members

Hear, hear.

---Applause

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit, Mr. Patterson.

Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker.

Some Hon. Members

Nay, nay.

Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

You're wasting my valuable time here.

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On Monday of this week, I attended a meeting of the Iqaluit Municipal Advisory Committee with Mr. Robin Beaumont, administrator. Madam Speaker, I can only describe the tone of the meeting as that of tension and extreme frustration.

Members of the Municipal Advisory Committee are feeling a growing sense of frustration. I heard the following comments from advisory committee Members at the meeting: "I am extremely tired of this committee;" "our hands are tied;" "I hate the word recommend;" and, "Between Robin Beaumont and the Minister, there are too many layers of people concerned with process and not common sense."

Madam Speaker, one of the main sources of frustration is land. On February 2, after hearing from a local Inuk who wanted one lot to build a house this summer and who was told that there were no lots presently available, the Municipal Advisory Committee recommended to Mr. Beaumont that, in the short-term, a minimum number of lots be identified for ballot draw by March 31. So, people who want to build houses this summer and become taxpayers can be given lots so they can go ahead.

Madam Speaker, nothing has happened to date. Although we know there are leases that have expired and lots that should be available -- and we know that there are lots which could be developed with minimal cost which are near to road services and on flat land -- because there is no lands officer in the town of Iqaluit and because there's been no apparent action from Municipal Affairs in Yellowknife, there are still no lots available for people who are waiting to meet sea-lift deadlines to make commitments to build houses and to become taxpayers.

Madam Speaker, the land issue must be addressed urgently, and the Municipal Advisory Committee has asked the Minister of Municipal Affairs to come to Iqaluit on an urgent basis to meet with them and deal with it. Thank you.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq, Mr. Allooloo.

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise today to make a statement that has come to my attention, Madam Speaker, that weather reporting stations in the Baffin region will close April 1 to April 5. In fact, the contractors have been instructed by the federal government to cut off the power going to weather stations. This concerns me very much, Madam Speaker. Everyone knows the Baffin communities rely on airplanes for their food and transportation. The airplanes that are going into communities like Cape Dorset, Clyde River and Pond Inlet will not know how high they are flying, whether there are cross-winds, whether there is fog or any kind of information that is essential to the pilots.

Madam Speaker, if there is no reporting taking place, the pilots will not be knowledgable about the barometers, therefore, they will not know how high or how low they are flying. I am concerned about the safety of my constituents during that transition period. I will pursue this matter in question period. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Last week my colleague from Amittuq spoke about assistance for parents who send their children to southern schools. I also want to speak on that topic.

Madam Speaker, as people are aware, people residing in the western Arctic signed treaties with the Canadian government many years ago. One of the guarantees in these treaties was the right to receive free education, particularly for the status aboriginal people. When the Minister of Education responded to my colleague, he emphasized that the department was working to develop quality programs in the north. I appreciate those efforts.

However, some parents still feel that their children have different needs that cannot be met in the Northwest Territories. They may feel that their children would be better educated, for example, in one of the good native residential schools in southern Canada. According to our treaty rights, their children should be able to get that kind of education with the cost being borne by the government.

Madam Speaker, I believe that part of the problem results from the confusion between the roles of the territorial Department of Education and the federal Department of Indian and Northern Affairs. Elsewhere in Canada, Indian Affairs is responsible for implementing treaty rights, such as the right to an education, but in the territories, the department makes those rules and policies. Madam Speaker, the problem is when parents go to Indian Affairs, they are referred back to the Department of Education and the Department of Education refers them back to Indian Affairs. The ball is always bouncing between those two departments. That is where the problem lies. Madam Speaker, I would like to encourage the Minister of Education to work with Indian Affairs to clarify their relationship concerning the education of the treaty people in the north. Parents have the right to get the best possible education for their children and the Department of Education should be helping parents with their decisions. Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The Speaker would like to recognize two respected elders from Hay River, Lionel Gagnon from Hay River and Mrs. Beatrice Morin, the mother of the Honourable Don Morin. Welcome to our Assembly.

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Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, today I wish to speak about some of the concerns I have with the way duties are split among the Members of Cabinet. Madam Speaker, we could all tell during the Cabinet review last December that the residents of the Northwest Territories are fortunate to have several natural born leaders serving as Cabinet Ministers.

My concern, Madam Speaker, is that we may be overworking some of these talented Ministers. I know from my own experience that some of these Ministers take longer to respond to concerns and questions from the ordinary MLAs simply because they have too much on their plate. This, of course, adds up to more work for the ordinary MLAs because they have to write follow-up letters and do extra lobbying that might not be required if the burden of duties were spread more evenly.

Madam Speaker, I appreciate the reasons for the east/west split on Cabinet. However, Madam Speaker, I am concerned about some Ministers who do not appear to be doing their homework. I feel that this lack of preparedness on their part may be causing resentment among the more conscientious Cabinet Ministers who see their responsibilities increase, but not their compensation packages.

Madam Speaker, some Cabinet Ministers are so busy that it is very difficult for them to attend important events in the Northwest Territories. I know that I have invited Ministers to attend important events in my constituency and that some Ministers have had to back out due to prior commitments. I can imagine, Madam Speaker, that they have had to decline invitations to important events in their own constituencies, also.

Madam Speaker, the smaller communities in the Northwest Territories appreciate visits from government Ministers. These visits make them feel like they, as a community, are part of the process. The process of government, Madam Speaker, is seen by a lot of communities as a strange animal that will only occur in the larger centres of the Northwest Territories.

Madam Speaker, I urge the Members of Cabinet, who perhaps do not have a full load, to buckle up and help their busier colleagues so that these Ministers can respond...

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Mr. Gargan, I cut your Member's statement off prior to you finishing. Member for Deh Cho.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Madam Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to continue my Member's statement.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and honourable Members. Madam Speaker, I urge the Members of Cabinet, who perhaps do not have a full load, to buckle up and help their busier colleagues so that these Ministers can respond better to the concerns of ordinary MLAs and their constituents. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Ballantyne.

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

North Slave?