This is page numbers 401 - 429 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was election.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you. To the motion, Mr. Speaker. I can't support this motion to take a two-week break. As you are well aware, we just started with the business of the House and it's critical that we pass the budget in a timely manner. As the Minister of Finance knows, we have to have it concluded by March 31st, or we won't have any money to spend after April 1st.

I believe it was last year or the year before when we considered both the O and M and capital budgets together that we ran up to the last hour to get the budget through. At one point in time, Mr. Speaker, we even had to approve a supp so the government could spend money after March 31st, because our budget wasn't done.

Mr. Speaker, we have only concluded two departments out of all the departments we have in this government. And it's critical that we discuss all the legislation that is in front of us. I don't see how we can take this length of time off. I just counted the days, Mr. Speaker, and the proposed motion states March 10th to March 27th. That's 16 days and it leaves us only five days when we reconvene before March 31st comes around. For those reasons, I can't support this particular motion. So, Mr. Speaker, I would like to make an amendment.

Motion To Amend Motion 14-12(7), Defeated

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Baffin Central, that the motion be amended by deleting March 10, 1995 and substituting March 17, 1995.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Zoe, your amendment is in order. To the amendment. Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Speaker, Members are anxious to vote on this particular motion...

---Laughter

...but I would just like to note, as the government indicated, we do have a lot of work. The budget is coming down and they are proposing to take a two-week break. I can't justify that to my people because this is the session when we're supposed to be working. I would encourage Members to support my amendment. I can't go for a two-week break, but maybe I can compromise and go for one week.

Some Hon. Members

Ohh.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The seconder, Ms. Mike, do you want to speak to the amendment? Mr. Patterson, to the amendment.

Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Just very briefly, Mr. Speaker, thank you. I would like to draw to the attention of Members of the House that the Nunavut Implementation Commission has invited Members of the Nunavut Caucus to consult with them on their very important paper during the week of March 10th, due to be presented to the House of Commons and this Legislature by the end of March 1995. It would be unfortunate if Members of our Caucus were away on break during that week. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I think this is a good amendment. It would allow us to be here for that important meeting and would still give us a week of a well-deserved break. Politics is the art of compromise. Let's support the amendment. Thank you.

---Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the amendment. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'll support this amendment, mainly because of the fact that when we look at the orders of the day, at committee of the whole, we've been here two weeks and have only done two departments. We're supposed to be here to do a budget; this is a budget session. I recognize that we've passed legislation but I recognize that we have more legislation. So, I think it's only proper that we address the current budget and give it our earnest consideration within the time frame that we can. I think if we take a one-week break, we'll still be able to address it without having to go to interim supply.

Mr. Speaker, I just want the public to know that, as a Member of the Assembly, I don't support us looking for interim supply. I would rather make the best use of our time, do our budget and then address our break time. We're going to have a break all summer now because we're going to have a fall election, so why worry about a break? Thank you.

---Laughter

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the amendment, Mr. Morin.

Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not support the amendment that Mr. Zoe has moved. Earlier this year, I believe it was last fall while we were still sitting here, we made an agreement in Caucus that we set the dates of this Assembly. We set them very clearly. Members made a conscious decision that we would sit in this House and that the House would adjourn on such a date and it would reconvene on the 27th of March. I made commitments in my riding. Some Members may perceive this as having a break, but I see it as giving me the opportunity to do other work that I have to do in my riding. I have scheduled for two weeks to go into my riding. The commitment was made by Members last fall, so I would like to keep my commitments in my riding. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the amendment. Mr. Ballantyne.

Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will not be supporting this amendment either. We got together, at least most of us did last fall, and the reason we got together was so we could make our plans for this year. Everybody had full opportunity to make their point for one week or two weeks, everybody has an opportunity to do it the fair way so we can all plan accordingly. We came out of Caucus the same way we came out with the concept of a fall election so everybody made their plans based on that agreement we made. Like Mr. Morin, I keep my agreements and I will support it.

The two issues that have been brought up; one, whether or not we vote supply doesn't really matter. We voted supply, I think, five out of the last seven years or whatever it is. It's just mechanics and it doesn't interrupt the flow of government expenditures or of revenues. As far as what we've done in two weeks, I'd like to remind Members not only have we done two departments we've also done 13 bills. There has actually been a fair bit of work done. A lot of Members, though, have made commitments to go into their constituency so it's not just taking a break, they will go into their constituency during these weeks. I'll just live up to the agreement we made last fall and I'm afraid, with all due respect, I can't support this amendment.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the amendment. Mr. Zoe, do you have a last comment to your amendment?

An Hon. Member

Recorded vote.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

A recorded vote has been requested. All those in favour of the amendment, please stand.

Recorded Vote

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Zoe, Ms. Mike, Mr. Pudluk, Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Patterson, Mr. Pudlat, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

All those who oppose the amendment, please stand.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Dent, Mr. Ballantyne, Mr. Koe, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Mr. Ng, Mr.

Pollard, Ms. Cournoyea, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Todd, Mr. Nerysoo, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Lewis.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

All those abstaining from the amendment, please stand. The result of the recorded vote on the amendment is eight for; 14 against; and, no abstentions. This amendment is defeated.

---Defeated

To the motion. Mr. Pudluk.

Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to say a few words with regard to the motion. We agreed before that we would take a break at these dates mentioned. We have not forgotten this. We all know that we have some work to do in our constituency during the break and our constituents know that and they are expecting us. We didn't know at the time we made the decision what amount of work we were going to finish with the budget. We have completed two departments since we have been here and there are numerous departments to be completed. I know we don't have very much time until the end of March to deal with the main estimates. The motion is trying to support the government to finish the budget by the end of March. I would like to make an amendment to the motion.

Motion To Amend Motion 14-12(7), Ruled Out Of Order

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Amittuq, to amend the motion to take a recess after the main estimates are dealt with. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Can I get a copy of your motion, Mr. Pudluk? Now I have a copy of the motion and it's in syllabics. I don't understand syllabics so we will take a break until the appropriate translation is done and all the Members have a copy of it.

---SHORT RECESS

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

An amendment was moved by Mr. Pudluk, the amendment is out of order as written.

---Ruled Out of Order To the motion. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Motion To Amend Motion 14-12(7), Withdrawn

Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to propose an amendment. I move, seconded by the honourable for Baffin Central, that the motion be amended by deleting March 10, 1995 and substituting March 24, 1995.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Can I have a copy of your motion, Mrs. Marie-Jewell?