Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member of Nahendeh that Bill 18, an Act to Amend the Public Trustee Act be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker, this Bill amends the Public Trustee Act to provide that excess interest earned by the investment of the common fund to be paid into the Consolidated Revenue Fund, rather than into a special reserve fund. The Government of the Northwest Territories guarantees that the common fund will meet all lawful claims, and if necessary, funds will be appropriated out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund to meet this guarantee. When this bill comes into force, the special reserve fund will be wound up and the monies within the fund will be paid into the Consolidated Revenue Fund. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Debates of Oct. 8th, 1996
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Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, your motion is in order to the principle of the bill. Principle of the bill questions being called. All those in favour. All those opposed. Motion is carried. Bill 18 has had second reading and accordingly stands ordered to Standing Committee. Second reading of bills. Mr. Ng.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by honourable Member for Nahendeh, that Bill 19, Electoral Boundaries Commissions Act be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker this bill provides for the establishment of two Electoral Boundaries Commissions, the Northwest Territories Boundaries Commission, which will review the existing electoral boundaries, and that part of the Northwest Territories that will not be included in Nunavut, and the Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission, which will review the existing boundaries in that part of the Northwest Territories, that will comprise Nunavut. Each commission will conduct public hearings in the course of this review and will subsequently prepare a report. This report will be made public and will be laid before the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Ng. Your motion is in order to the motion. Questions being called, all those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Bill 19 has had second reading. Mr. Ng.
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 69(2) and have Bill 19, Electoral Boundaries Commission Act ordered into committee of the whole. Thank you.
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 69(2), do we have any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent. Accordingly, Bill 19 will be moved into Committee of the Whole. Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters, Tabled Document 1-13(3), Minister's Statement 82-13(3), Minister's Statement 86-13(3), Committee Report 6-13(3), and Bill 19, with Mr. Steen in the Chair.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
I call the Committee to order, and on the agenda for today we have Tabled Document 1-13(3), Report of the Commission on MLA Compensation. Minister's Statement 82-13(3), Premier's Sessional Speech, Member's Statement 86-13(3), Senior's Fuel Subsidy Program, Committee Report 06-13(3), Report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations on the Report of the Auditor General for the year ended March 31, 1995; Bill 17, Business Corporations Act; Bill 19. I will have Mr. Ootes to address how we should proceed here.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Chairman, I would recommend that we go onto item Committee Report 06-13(3), Report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations on the Report of the Auditor General for the year ended March 31, 1995, as the first item and then Bill 17 after that. In that order.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Do we have agreement from the Committee? I would suggest that we take a ten minute recess here so that we can get everything in order.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Committee has agreed to deal with Committee Report 6-13(3). I believe Mr. O'Brien would like to speak to that. I understand that we left off yesterday on recommendation number 4. Mr. O'Brien, you would like to speak to that.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Yes, thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, I would like to withdraw my motion at this time and if that is agreed, then I am prepared to make another motion on this matter.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you. I move that the Standing Committee recommends that the government amend relevant legislation, regulations and their policies to ensure that the crown corporations, and other entities of the government, meet the requirements of the Financial Administration Act regarding corporate plans and annual reports and further that the government table in the Legislative Assembly, by January 30, 1997, proposals, including suggested penalties to amend legislation, or regulation and/or policy to strengthen compliance for reporting under the Financial Administration Act.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I think it is important for the record to state that we appreciate my Honourable colleague, Mr. O'Brien, and his colleagues making these adjustments to these motions to date. Thank you.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Todd. To the motion. The question is being called. All those in favour of the motion? Opposed? Abstain? The motion is carried. I assume where we left off yesterday is recommendation number 5, number 6 and number 7, page 7. Mr. O'Brien, do
you want to speak toward recommendation number 5?
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Mr. Chairman, if I can continue with information on other issues.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Are you talking about issues other than recommendation number 5? We are now on other issues on page 6, is that correct? Yes, Mr. O'Brien.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under other issues, page 6. One chapter of the report consisted of a follow up to the Auditor General's 1992 Comprehensive Audit of the Department of Health. The Auditor General was concerned that the department was too slow in carrying out the recommendations of the comprehensive audit. For example, the comprehensive audit stressed the need for a strategic plan governing health care delivery in the NWT.
Mr. Ramsden suggested that a draft of the plan might be complete in the next eight, 12, or perhaps 18 months. Committee Members also discussed concerns about the relationship of the health boards, information systems and the flow of information between the department and the boards. Outside the report Members discussed the issue of municipal loans, briefly, with the other general staff.
Members expressed concern about municipal accountability with regard to community empowerment, following up on an issue in last year's report relating to loans to municipalities. Problems with municipalities' budgets have lead to concerns by committee Members that the significant transfer of funds and responsibilities included in the community empowerment initiative could lead to further problems.
Mr. Voytilla agreed to provide further information to the committee regarding plans to ensure adequate accountability to communities and the committee intends to pay close attention to the financial health of municipalities and the accountability framework of the community empowerment initiative.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Recommendation number 5: the Standing Committee recommends that the Legislative Assembly request the Auditor General of Canada to conduct an independent review of how the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs assesses and determines the financial health of communities through municipal reporting processes, and further request that the review be reported independently to the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly as soon as possible, preferably within the next six months.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Yes.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Mr. O'Brien, your motion is in order. To the motion. Question. Question is being called. All those in favour? Opposed? Motion is carried. Proceed Mr. O'Brien.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will now turn this over to the Chair, Mr. Erasmus.