In the Legislative Assembly on February 15th, 1996. See this topic in context.

Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the Minister of Education about the transfer of programs from Nunatta Campus of Nunavut Arctic College. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister of Education provide to this House a breakdown on the cost to transfer these programs, including the cost of student married accommodations, impact of student travel costs, and the administration costs before the program transfer are implemented? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 14th, 1996

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I responded to the Member yesterday, I have asked the college to demonstrate how it intends to meet the costs of program relocation and to provide that information in detail to my office by March 31st. After having that information, I will certainly be prepared to share it with the Member.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

That wasn't my question. My question was if the Minister was prepared to table that information in the House. The reason for my question, of course, is that public money spent by this government should be available to the public. I appreciate the information coming to me, personally, but I would like to have that information tabled in this House for the public to see these costs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't have that information right now. As I said, the information is to be available to my office by March 31st. Following that date, if the Member wishes to raise the issue in the House, I would be prepared to respond so that it becomes part of the public forum. It has to be remembered that the purpose of these public funds is to provide a regional fairness and balance in the programs that this government or college provides.

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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

So the reason for the program relocation is to ensure that college programs are available across Nunavut.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, having been an employee of Arctic College from 1987 to 1992, I am fully aware of the philosophy behind the college. Mr. Speaker, again I have to reiterate that I am not against the decentralization of college programs if it makes administrative, logistical and financial sense to do so. Mr. Speaker, this House keeps talking about financial cutbacks, reductions and lay-offs, yet we continue on to spend $1.30 to liberate $1. Mr. Speaker, this is not the issue. The issue is the cost of the decentralization of programs. Mr. Speaker, the cost has not been proven to me. Has the Minister looked at the transfer of programs that are currently being offered in the West and having those programs devolved to Nunavut instead of transferring programs within Nunavut to other campuses?

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Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. I would like to remind Members when you are directing questions to Ministers that you limit it to one question and not a multiple of questions. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the distribution of programs is something that is always under consideration by the colleges and where they are being offered. The goal is to ensure that there is equity of access as much as can be offered across the Northwest Territories. We have a complicating issue, which is our fiscal climate at this point in time. There is no new money. The question of whether or not we are going to add programs in, changing the East/West balance, I can't commit to doing that. I can commit to say we will continue to examine where programs are offered, where they are most needed and where we have the most students who can take advantage of it. We will ensure that we do our best, given today's fiscal climate, to provide reasonable equity of access.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am very pleased to hear the Minister say that. My final supplementary question is, is the Minister aware that transferring the management training and social services programs will leave the new capital of Nunavut without programs essential for the capital. Because the impact of social change due to forced growth of being the capital, Mr. Speaker, we all realize that Iqaluit has the biggest social changes as the new capital. With these transfers, we will not have the programs to train our people to deal with them. Has the Minister asked the board to look at this?

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Question 19-13(2): Costs For Transfer Of Nunatta Campus Programs
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister seems to be implying that people cannot be trained in different regions. In the West, we have courses that are offered in Inuvik that aren't offered in the other two campuses. We have courses that are offered in Fort Smith that are not offered in the other two campuses. The regional balance of programming doesn't necessarily mean that all programs are offered at one campus. We have to be willing to make sure that students can be allowed to attend courses at various places. That will take place.

Added to that, with division taking place, there is tremendous potential for Nunatta Arctic College to pick up on third-party training. The Iqaluit campus is strategically located to maximize the third party paying for extra training opportunities. The college has a good history across the Northwest Territories of seeking out third-party funding to offer courses. I am confident that the Iqaluit campus will not see a dramatic slow-down in the number of courses offered or a dramatic drop-off in students. I am confident that the college will be out there looking for partners to make sure there are still a lot of quality programs offered at that campus. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.