Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Minister giving me a copy of the cost analysis of the transfer of college programs in Iqaluit, as promised. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister table said document in the House for public review? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 134-13(3): Review Of Transfer Of Arctic College Programs
In the Legislative Assembly on May 2nd, 1996. See this topic in context.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
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Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess there is no reason I couldn't table that document. I would be happy to do that.
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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have had some time to go over the cost analysis. There was no mention of logistic costs such as travel for students to and from said destinations and also the cost of your kitchen staff to provide food for said students. Mr. Speaker, what are these costs?
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Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not sure that there would be any additional costs. We would be moving students to the Iqaluit campus from communities such as Cambridge and Rankin. In future, we will be moving students to Rankin from communities such as Pond Inlet and Cambridge. That is a normal course of events. Students have to move around to get their courses in the North.
I believe the Member's second question had to do with catering. Again, the cost of catering, whether it is offered in one community or another, would not tend to be significantly different.
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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question wasn't if they were going to be similar or not similar. My question was if the cost was factored into the analysis. I didn't see the costs there. My question is, if we don't know what the costs are ... I will phrase it differently. Why weren't they factored in?
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Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Speaker, the costs are not considered part of the base funding for Iqaluit, so why would they be considered part of the base funding for the move to Rankin Inlet? The question doesn't really apply because you are talking about student support. That comes out of a totally different area. We provide the student support, whether students are going to school in Yellowknife, Iqaluit or Rankin Inlet.
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Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Mr. Speaker, I am not against the decentralization of programs, as I have said in this House many times. I am saying if the cost is prohibited, as the Minister said, I am trying to find out what the costs are. We all know if there are adult students living in a residence, it is going to cost money to feed these people. That would be a cost in the transfer. If the program is offered in a different location now, those costs would have to be factored in. That is why my question is about the cost of the food, the other things that I talked about, et cetera. I understand student support, but the whole point of this transfer is that it wouldn't cost the college any extra money out of its base funds. The Minister just told me it wouldn't come out of base funds, it would come out of other money. If it is coming out of the other funds, there is only X number of dollars for student support, so where are those dollars and how much are they in the cost analysis. If it isn't there, where are they? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the cost of students' eating isn't part of the college's budget, so it isn't considered part of the cost of moving the college. Students have to eat no matter where they are going to school; whether it's the University of Alberta or the Aurora Campus in Inuvik. The bottom line is that is not considered part of the college cost; that's a part of the student's support that we provide. It isn't something that would be figured in the cost of a move like this.
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Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.