Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
The reason I raise this point is that my colleague from Yellowknife, Mr. Erasmus, raised the question about services people get when they are incarcerated. You mentioned that they do see counsellors and psychiatrists. Since that process is happening here, why couldn't it also be done with the communities? You did state that in Yellowknife there are all the programs with regards to access to Arctic College, the hospital and things like that. Counselling is no real problem here but I think we have to look at the other areas, especially in relation to people in the regions, and start using the regional facilities to deal with these things at that level. It would give them the same opportunities people have in the larger centres such as YCI, to serve their sentences closer to the community and try to get them back into society sooner and assist them during their time of crisis.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wouldn't argue with that fact. I think those types of services would have to be integrated through the other social envelope programs: particularly, Health and Social Services; and, possibly through income support through Education, Culture and Employment, depending on what initiative they were trying to undertake or depending on what program of treatment would be referred or recommended for any individual. Thank you.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Ng. We're on page 6-13, community justice and corrections, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $21.695 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Detail of capital, page 6-14, community justice and corrections, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $1.228 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Can we go back to the first section, $1.228 million? With regard to the $1.074 million, what was that allocated for?
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97 Department Of Justice
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That was the item that we discussed in great detail, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97 Department Of Justice
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Could the Minister describe the item that he just discussed in great detail and exactly where these items are located?
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. These items are not located anywhere. It's the capital carryover of dollars from the 1995-96 fiscal year. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Can the Minister give me some assurance that those dollars will be made available to the community of Aklavik for a project that they have been working on for a number of years?
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97 Department Of Justice
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I can't give any assurances at this point, until I can identify where some of the operations and maintenance dollars may be coming from to support some of these facilities or until the community-based justice report comes forward and there's healthy debate and discussion on it with the Social Programs Members, to try to flush out if the direction that the department is heading in is the right one with respect to that issue. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
You're saying that this item is on hold. Does that mean that all other items in this envelope are also on hold?
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
No, Mr. Chairman, it means just this specific item and the capital estimate is on hold. Thank you.
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