Page 2-30, detail of grants and contributions, contributions, $5.857 million. Mr. Roland.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Grants and contributions, power subsidy; is that the amount this government pays for subsidies going out to all the power users, commercial and residential?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, Mr. Chairman, that's for the private home ownership subsidy and for the small commercial enterprise subsidy. Mr. Roland's correct.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does that tie in ... I believe when we looked at an earlier one that the Power Corporation itself ... Is this sort of recovered from them?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, thank you. Mr. Voytilla has pointed out to me that whatever the expenditure is, they declare a dividend for that amount so, in a sense, it's revenue and expenditure neutral, yes.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister indicated that these subsidies go to communities, I understand. Does this include the community of Yellowknife?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, the subsidy is actually based on the Yellowknife rate and the factors built into it and the subsidies are for all communities outside of Yellowknife. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
So the power subsidy goes to most or just about all the communities, other than Yellowknife and probably Hay River and Fort Smith. Can I assume that?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Mr. Voytilla advises me not Fort Smith because I believe the rates are lower in Fort Smith. Maybe I can explain it. The domestic power subsidy provides a discount to all for example, in the domestic power subsidy, Mr. Chairman residential users outside of Yellowknife for the first 700 kilowatts used per month. There's a subsidy built in there. So that's how it's done. The Yellowknife rate is used, and this year it's going to cost $5.857 million, and the Power Corporation declares a dividend, so the net impact to this government is zero. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Does this subsidy ... In recent years, there was a low water rate built into the system. Is that included in this?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
No. Mr. Voytilla advises me that we didn't work in the low water surcharge.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed
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The Chair Vince Steen
We are on page 2-31, information item, schedule of lease budget requirements. Page 2-32, detail of work performed on behalf of third parties. The total for those is on page 2-33, total department, $8.446 million.