(Microphone turned off) ... they do have statistics with regard to who these departments have sent to these management programs and exactly how many of these people are senior people within the bureaucracy versus the people who are trying to work their way up the ladder to eventually manage these programs.
David Krutko on Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
In the Legislative Assembly on May 7th, 1996. See this statement in context.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
May 6th, 1996
Page 254
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