Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I believe that when the Electoral Boundaries Commission made the report that they probably looked at the population factor of Cambridge Bay being larger than Kugluktuk and they looked at Umingmaktok and Bathurst Inlet of being closer in geographical location to Kugluktuk than to Cambridge Bay. That was probably their rationale for their recommendation. I think what is important to note is that they were not aware of the family ties between the people of Bathurst Inlet and Umingmaktok with people in Cambridge Bay. They did not take into consideration that those two communities were provided their health care services and their education services through Cambridge Bay and also the fact that they have no scheduled aircraft service into Umingmaktok and Bathurst Inlet. The service they do get is from charter aircraft from an operator based in Cambridge Bay. Just to confirm that I was not wrong, Mr. Chairman, in my assumption of the people of those two communities, I held public meetings down there this past summer and spoke to them about the recommendations and they unanimously asked that I try to move them back in with the Cambridge Bay constituency, and hence, the motion, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

I move that this committee recommends that Model C contained in the Report of Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission be amended by changing the name of the proposed electoral district of Coral Harbour and Chesterfield to Nanulik.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. After talking to a number of people in my community, elders, the name Nanulik fits with the riding. Coral Harbour has the highest quota in the world for polar bear hunting and the people in this riding know that the word Nanulik would promote tourism. The meaning of the word is "where there is polar bears". Both communities, Chesterfield Inlet and Coral Harbour have abundance of polar bears in that area and they are also known for their traditional knowledge on bear hunting. That is all I wanted to say. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion. I move that this committee recommends that Model C contained in this Report of Nunavut

Electoral Boundaries Commission be amended by changing the name of proposed electoral district of High Arctic to Quttiktuq. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is just a translation of the High Arctic into Inuktitut. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends that Model C contained in the Report of the Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission be amended by placing the community of Whale Cove in the proposed electoral district of Arviat.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again I will summarize the reason that we have a motion which talks about another constituency is because of the fact that in the Model C that we have approved to recommend to the Minister, the community of Sanikiluaq which is in my present constituency, is paired with the community of Whale Cove.

For those that are not familiar, the two communities are very far from each other. They are in two different administrative districts or regions, have no family ties and have very different dialects. Although it is all in the new culture, the cultural ways are different.

I do not know for sure, the reason for the pairing of these two communities in the report, but as I said previously, in my general comments, I believe that in going with the 17 seats, the commission had limited flexibility in how it divided up the seats. Therefore, this political judgment is left up to us, the politicians.

What I would like to do is just illustrate briefly the problems that are created by having a constituency that is very large and that does not have good transportation links.

I presently represent the communities of Cape Dorset, Kimmirut and Sanikiluaq. I have to tell you that it is probably the most difficult constituency in all of the Northwest Territories to get to. It takes me several weeks just to be able to get in a couple days in each constituency. The cost between lqaluit and Sanikiluaq for example for an air charter is over $7,000, that is just one community and for one meeting. With my constituency budget I believe being around $30,000 you can see how many constituency meetings I have in that community. Let alone the other two communities.

You can, still speaking on the costs, being a bit more frugal, you can do different things to try to keep that cost down. For example, you go in on split charters and you can go with other organizations, such as I did with the Baffin Region Inuit Association this past winter and which I did at one point with the MACA at another point. In the two years that I have represented the constituency, I have been in that community six times, and that is an average of every four months. That does not seem like a lot, but that is more than double than the two previous MLAs having visited those communities in the four years. I am not kidding.

Just recently, I sent my constituency assistant Johnny Manning to go to Sanikiluaq on my behalf. I could not go due to an invitation by the Minister of DIAND to meet her at the time. I sent my constituency assistant to go down for some meetings with the different groups in the community and to hold a radio phone - in show on this subject and on others Because there is one flight a week from Iqaluit to Sanikiluaq. and it is not a scheduled flight, it is what they call a charter. Although it is scheduled, it is still a charter because there is never enough passengers to fill the plane and to pay for the cost.

Mr. Manning left on a Thursday on my behalf, was suppose to leave on a Thursday, but was delayed by one day and ended up going down on a delayed flight. It took him almost three weeks to get back home, even though he was down there for one phone-in show and several constituency meetings with different groups.

Now imagine for MLAs who live in Yellowknife or who live in Iqaluit or have been in Baker Lake, you go out to have a constituency meeting and it takes you three weeks to get home. It sounds like a fairy tale story but that is exactly what happens right now. It is unacceptable. It is almost unmanageable.

Now the way the Model C proposes is to pair Sanikiluaq and Whale Cove together. That is equally unacceptable, because there is no transportation links. It would take an MLA who will be based out of Iqaluit at the time because that is where the Legislative Assembly will be, to hold one meeting in each of those two communities, one constituency meeting. If Sanikiluaq and Whale Cove were paired together that person will have to travel, and I am not kidding, 9,600 kilometres to have a meeting in each of the two communities. That is totally unacceptable.

I propose that Sanikiluaq because of the difference in culture, dialect, et cetera and the remoteness, that Sanikiluaq requires. desires and deserves its own seat. I point out to you MLAs the letter that I tabled yesterday from Mayor Kattuk explaining why. He talks about the population growth is high, that they are geographically remote, that they have no ties to Whale Cove, et cetera. I will leave the rest of the reading for you Now why, if I want a seat for the community to have its own MLA, why would I propose that Arviat go with Whale Cove? Well, it is because of the report or the way the report is laid out and the fact that we do need to make a recommendation. In recommending that Sanikiluaq have its own seat, we have to make a decision on what to recommend for the representation of Whale Cove. If you look on the map at the community of Whale Cove and its location, its transportation links, its family ties, its culture, and its dialect language, the whole nine yards, you will note that the two closest communities are Rankin Inlet and Arviat.

Now because of the way the new constituencies are divided up, there is no question in my mind that Rankin Inlet deserves and must have its own seat. There is no questions about that. That is what I would recommend. But that still leaves Whale Cove out in the cold.

So the next best thing for the community is to be represented by an MLA who represents Arviat. As you can see in Model C, Model C recommends that Arviat have its own seat where as right now it is divided up between, paired up with Baker Lake. So, if you catch my drift, that is the reason for the motion.

I do, if required have other information and other things I could say to the motion. I have spoken with many Members and I am confident that MLAs understand the needs of Sanikiluaq and I hope would vote for the motion. If this goes through, this is not the end of the work as yet. There are opportunities in the future for other boundaries commissions if this relationship does not work out between the two communities. It is open for debate. We can look at it again. With that, I would ask Members to support the motion which pairs Whale Cove with Arviat but the overall intent and effect is for Sanikiluaq to have its own seat and to be recognized for its uniqueness and its needs. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Arlooktoo makes a number of good points, travel and so on and so forth. First of all this amendment to the Commission's recommendation came to me this morning. This report has been available since June 30 and was presented to the Speaker of the House. I had no time to deal with this. It just came in front of me this morning at a meeting. The amount of time that I did have to deal with it was a five-minute phone call to the hamlet of Arviat in which they responded with a letter stating their concerns and their dismay that this was happening after the deliberations that took place regarding the study. Mr. Speaker, to me it would make no sense to have Arviat join up with another community that would bring its population to over 2,000 people with one Member and give a seat to another to Sanikiluaq with 495 people. I stand to be corrected, the information was 490. We will assume that it is 700. It will still raise the issue which brings the point forward that the MLA for Arviat will be responsible for over 2,000 people.

We have a community that has the fastest growth rate population wise in Canada and probably North America and the highest unemployment. To expect one Member to serve that many people with that many social problems and high unemployment is unthinkable. There are a number of issues here. The report made it very clear as to what they felt was a fair balance to their recommendation. There was a great deal of time, effort and money spent on this report and to have it twisted and contorted at the last minute, I think, is somewhat unfair to all parties. I guess the issue is I have not had the time to speak to my communities. I do not know who has spoken to Whale Cove. I would think and I believe that they should have a voice and I would have concern that they have not been consulted. For all these reasons, I think it only fair and I respectfully move that we defer this item until such time we have an opportunity to fairly and honestly speak to all parties. I think that is only reasonable and fair.

With that Mr. Chairman, I will be asking for your support to defer this item so that we can spend the time on it that is necessary given the fact that this came on the table in front of me this morning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I want to move it, yes.

Mr, Chairman, I move that due to the fact that the parties involved in this amendment have not been properly consulted that we defer this item until proper consultation has taken place. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To the motion, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Arlooktoo and Mr. O'Brien both indicated that they have spoken to the two communities in question either directly or indirectly. I believe that in fairness to one community that is affected by the motion and the Report of the Nunavut Electoral Boundaries, I am wondering what is the wish of the people of the Whale Cove. Do they wish to be a part of Sanikiluaq or Arviat? In order to be fair to that community, my question would be what is the wish of the people of Whale Cove? Secondly, Mr. Chairman, the one way

to satisfy everyone in question would be to make Whale Cove a stand alone riding and I do not think that would be practical given the population of that community which I believe is not over 500. I am wondering, if I may ask to move the motion of what is the wish of the people of Whale Cove. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.