Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Barnabas
Debates of Oct. 3rd, 1997
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Return To Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Supplementary To Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the honourable Minister for responding. However, I know that my community of Arctic Bay is receiving less funding for GLO position. I would like to know from the honourable Minister what she is going to do to correct this situation.
Supplementary To Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Ms. Thompson.
Further Return To Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MACA will be working with the Department of Executive and Financial Management Board to find a solution to this situation for the Member. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
Question 580-13(4): Community Empowerment In Arctic Bay
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister responsible for Division, Mr. Todd. The issue of division is taking more and more attention by everybody. The issue I talked about in my Member's statement of trying to come up with understandable, clear information to the people to keep them up to speed and to allay any concerns. The question I would like to pose to the Minister, does he see this as an issue and how does he intend to proceed to address it? Thank you.
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.
Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to point out to my honourable colleague, I now have two able assistants, the Honourable Goo Arlooktoo and the Honourable Charles Dent. I welcome them to the fold as they say in this difficult issue of the creation of two new territories. It is my intention later on next week to table a document that will show, hopefully, to the territories and politicians like yourselves and others, a pragmatic, practical approach to put in the essential ingredients, the essential services that are going to be required to get two new territories up and running. In this report that I intend to table later next week, it also identifies some of the shortfalls, if you want, with respect to some of the transitional costs. It also tries to allay some western fears in respect to the need for a table to discuss incremental costs and ongoing transitional costs for a Western Territory as it unfolds. I am hopeful that we will get some buy in this transition plan because I fundamentally believe that it does provide a blue print for the initial steps that are necessary to ensure that we can celebrate on April 1, 1999, as our Premier frequently says. Thank you.
Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hope that in fact, Mr. Todd, and his two able assistants or colleagues will in fact come to be known as the three wise-men of division.
--Laughter
Hopefully, if we do this right, not the three blind mice. Mr. Speaker, my question remains, while the Minister talks of transitional documents which are important, they are not written for the average public or the average person. Could the Minister indicate how he intends to, translate that and come up with a communication plan which is so critical and as an Assembly, we have struggled with to present this kind of information in a clear and timely way to the people? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, I want to ensure my honourable colleague, it will not be the blind leading the blind. I believe once we table this document that it is and we instructed them to write it in a manner that is understandable to the public at large and to ourselves. I think that it has been designed and the writing style is a very pragmatic one. I am hopeful that most people will be able to understand it. However, we will have a communication strategy and we will have a number of executive summaries of this report and we intend to, as we have been this last week, be talking to all the parties. Yesterday, I finished a briefing with Mr. Natsiq Kango who is the Secretary Treasurer of NTI. We have had a number of briefings with the Interim Commissioner's office. I have spoken to both federal Ministers, Mr. Martin and Ms. Stewart on the document. We presented the document to Caucus. This afternoon, we are going to go through a detailed review of the document with the Nunavut Caucus. We need to do exactly the same thing with the public at large. We are developing that right now to ensure that everybody fully understands what we are suggesting in this transition plan.
If I may this morning, I would like to have the opportunity to stress to everybody, it is exactly that, a transition plan. It is not a complete blueprint for division. It is not a complete blueprint for the two new emerging governments. That is up to the two new emerging governments. It is a transition plan to put the essential bureaucratic services in place so that on April 1, 1999, we can have two functional governments. The transitional plan is going to require some buy-in by all the partners. There is no question about that. I am hoping that we will have a healthy debate about it in this house later on next week and the following weeks as we move forward in this session. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very clearly while Mr. Todd and his colleagues have a leadership role to play, we all have an obligation and responsibility in this process. The questions that we are going to have to respond to are going to be very simple. One of the fundamental questions that I think we have to address and I would like the Minister to speak to is, the whole issue east and west. Will division have a negative effect on services and programs in the two new territories? I think that is one of the most fundamental assurances that we have to try to provide people If the Minister could just briefly speak to that particular critical issue. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker I think that is a good question and it is one that has been asked by everybody across the territories, is there going to be fairness, equity and transparency in the process. I want to assure my honourable colleagues here there is going to be exactly that. There will be fairness, equity and transparency in the process. In my discussion with Mr. Martin last week, I wanted to get his support as I have said consistently for two formulas with respect to the gross expenditure base. I am reasonably confident and I am reluctant to say today whether he will agree or not agree, but I am reasonably confident he understands the need for this approach. I am hopeful that in the next week or so I will be able to get an affirmative response from him. When I do, I will announce that in the House. I have a great deal of respect for the Finance Minister of Canada and a great deal of respect for when he tells me what he is going to do. He will do exactly what he says he is going to do. The issue of two new formulas, if that is what my colleague is alluding to, and the need to establish an appropriate gross expenditure base based upon the kind of new governments that we see emerging is critical if we are going to get fairness, equity and transparency in the process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
Question 581-13(4): Communicating Division Planning
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Roland.
Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement I referred to government red tape and its impact on the people of the territories. Mr. Speaker, we heard over the summer there was some work being done on regulatory reform. My question would be directed to the Minister responsible for Regulatory Reform, I believe it is the Honourable Mr. Kakfwi. I would like to know if this regulatory reform addresses some of the areas of aboriginal people when it comes to the natural food and the process and that ability to
produce things that would be saleable within the territories and probably elsewhere? Thank you.
Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The Minister responsible for Resources. Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.
Return To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The regulatory reform initiative that was launched by Cabinet last March has done some work to date. As Members know, the government has said two years ago when our new terms began that we were going to put the focus on the private sector for the creation of jobs. To that end, on our part we recognize that there may be a lot of what you would call red tape and artificial barriers that would prevent small business initiatives from creating the necessary momentum to be successful. This regulatory reform initiative has been set up. We have set up a small office and several projects have been set up in the last few months that would look at different sectors of our economy and the businesses that have potential to grow and to look at the different sectors and see how the present environment is perceived by those sectors whether it is really a jungle or whether there are major obstacles in the way of growth in the private sector because of bureaucracy and regulatory entanglement. When we look at small businesses, being initiated by aboriginal peoples it is one of the sectors we are currently looking at. Thank you.
Return To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.
Supplementary To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is good news for many of the small businesses especially when we have a lot of natural products in the north that we see at local events such as northern games, but as soon as those products go up for sale we run into problems with meeting codes and different regulations. In particular, can the Minister inform me of any work that is going on within this initiative to address the local and northern products we have? For example, I used in my story the smoked fish or the meat or local hunts. I know we have to meet some pretty large regulations right now when it comes to any kind of meats. Can the Minister inform me of that? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
My Speaker, some of the issues that the Member has raised are in fact outside of the regime of this government. For instance, in regulation of what you call the red meat issue, we have an abundance of, for instance, caribou meat in the Northwest Territories and other wild meat. It is under the legislative authority and jurisdiction of the federal government that meat wild, or domestic, is exported and licensed for consumption, resale and marketing. But having said that, as a Minister, I have been working for sometime on trying to resolve some of these impediments to the export of red meat from the Northwest Territories to southern markets. I had a meeting recently with the Minister of Agriculture and we have, I think, basically resolved the issue of egg marketing. We have signed an agreement that says we will commit to going to our respective Cabinets to ensure that the Northwest Territories will become part of the egg marketing agency that we have been excluded from previously. I believe that is going to be resolved after a long history of conflict, argument and dissension amongst us mainly between the southern producers and ourselves here in the north. On the red meat issue, it is an area of work that again needs resolution. We have no particular, quick solutions to that although the Minister, Mr. Vanclief, has agreed to put our officials to work on it with a view of trying to resolve the difficulties that we have in the Northwest Territories to recent selling caribou meat, muskox meat and other meats from the Northwest Territories to buyers in the south. Some of the difficulties we acknowledge are international, for instance buyers in Europe and the United States. Having said that, we have agreed to work on that together. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 582-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Henry.