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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Total expenditures, $713,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Page 3-9, treasury, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $7,381,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Roland

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a quick question here on the treasury. With all the reductions that this government has been making and employee numbers, has that been looked at when it comes to impacting on the amount of taxes we collect as a government? Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Todd?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, Mr. Chairman. When we are projecting revenues that are required for our overall budgetary

requirements, the reduction in staff, the reduced, if you want, reduction in taxes, is the same as we anticipate a growth in taxes, for example, in the mining industry. That is all taken into consideration when we look at our revenues.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Minister have available the number or the effect that we have a result of the second year of our budget reduction plan?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Would that be the overall tax impact? Is that what my colleague is saying? I do not have that detail in terms broken out. We look at a revenue package as the taxes collected rather than taxes not collected. I think it is an important question. If my colleague asks me in the House later on this week, I will only be too happy to try to find the ways and means to break that down if he so requires it.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

It is not something we would normally do. What I am looking at is what are the total revenues we expect to get based upon the fact that there is activity going on, that there are reductions, et cetera, so if my honoured colleague would bear with me, if he asks me in the House, I will try to answer it that way. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Total operations and maintenance, $7,381,000. I have Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the total O and M there is only $1 million that is for salaries and the rest of the O and M is $6,000,334. I would think this is an area that would need a lot of manpower or person power, but yet only one seventh of the budget is for that. What is all this other $6 million go towards?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, Miss Melhorn advised me that, that is primarily in the area of insurance costs, interest payment on our borrowing costs and there are some odds and ends of transfers. It is primarily in the field of insurance and borrowing costs.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we get an indication of how much is interest and how much is insurance?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

If the borrowing costs this year will be somewhere around the range of $2 million, I can probably get the exact number, if I may just for a moment. But I think it is somewhere in the $2 million range. Hang on a second. Yes, about a $2,500,000 in borrowing costs I think we had originally projected when I went to the committee earlier in the year, $4 million. It would be about $2,700,000 and then the rest would be in natural, the other costs would be.....(background talking)...Yes, $2,700,000 About $700,000 for the Power Corporation and the balance would be, what did we call it? Insurance costs.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Total operations and maintenance, $7,381,000. Mr. Picco. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand that the Government of the NWT made arrangements with one bank and I am wondering if that is correct? Then the question I would have is the borrowing interest rate fixed or does it float according to the Bank of Canada rate?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Todd.