This is page numbers 523 - 556 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was policy.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chair, on standing offers, as we call them, if there are arrangements where we are incurring great cost in order to do business only with specific parties, then certainly that is a cause for concern. If there are specific instances where these are occurring, then I am sure that the department responsible will be anxious to know of it so that we can address it. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. I have on the list now Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Krutko. Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Madam Chair. My question is more on the process. At this point the Minister indicated that he would take and review this with the Minister of Housing and then take the results of the review back to Cabinet. What is the timing on this? When can we expect to get some confirmation as far as what the outcome is, and also, will the Ordinary Members have any further input in the final results? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chair, I would hope that I could have it dealt with in Cabinet within a month. That should not suggest that it would be a final decision. It would come out, for instance, that the Cabinet maybe will send me scurrying back for more specific information or, yet again, other suggestions to be considered before a final decision would be made. I am prepared to go to Cabinet as quickly as I can, as soon as I can get prepared with my arguments and my rational for the recommendations that I am going to advance to Cabinet. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Madam Chair. The second part of my question was, as part of the process, will the Ordinary Members have any further opportunity for input into the final decisions and the final results of your recommendations to Cabinet and the final outcome of the policy? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chair, the Ordinary Members always have a say. They have a say while we are formulating our thoughts, they have a say while we are formulating what we think we would like to suggest. They have a say while we are articulating what our suggestions are, recommendations on courses of action. They have a say after our final decisions are made, in the sense that if they really, really do not like it, they can make heads roll. They can force the government to reconsider decisions it made, but they should not throw the fear of God into us that we would never make decisions.

I am going on the positive energy of Mr. Seamus Henry and other good colleagues. I think that with all the input that we have received recently that I am in a position where I can come out looking fairly well informed, fairly well supported, with some decision out of Cabinet. That is what I am hoping for. I do not want to surprise anybody. Certainly, I do not want to be surprised with the reception I receive. There is not going to be any surprises. As I have said, as the Member knows, we have had some good discussions. It is hard to achieve clear and precise consensus on any point, but we have some general agreement on a number of areas that need to be addressed and we have some general parameters that, I think tell us how and what should be considered when we consider possible amendments to this policy. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Third question, Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to assure the Minister that I did not think for a moment, not one single moment, that he would come back with any surprises after all the discussion and opportunity that we had to go over this issue. I just really wanted to hear him say that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Moving on, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the Minister's opening address he indicated that 95 percent of the nearly $100 million in contract awards last year were won by northern firms. Then a little while ago he indicated to me, when I questioned him, that his northern firms includes the grandfathered companies. What I would like to know is, what percent of the contracts were awarded to the grandfathered companies?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chair, I do not have that available, but I would be pleased to provide that to the Member, all Members, since it is a good question.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. At the same time, would the Minister be kind enough to indicate the amount of dollars that is involved with those grandfathered companies? The amount of dollars that the contracts they received totalled?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. How soon can we expect to receive this information?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chair, I would venture a guess that it would be about a week. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Regarding some recommendations and discussions in this House, these recommendations are, I believe, straightforward and they have had a lot of debate in this House. I believe they are workable, and with regards to amending the BIP to ensure that some of these recommendations are put forward, I would like to ask the Minister how soon can he make these and when can he get back to the House on the amendments?