Mr. Krutko, you were cut off. Mr. Krutko.
Debates of Feb. 12th, 1997
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
My question was in regards to project management. Is there a way of ensuring that there is sharing of managerial experience in certain fields? With the Department of Transportation, regarding road maintenance, in regards to Public Works, regards to water treatment plants, things like that, the sharing of managers between the departments has this government looked at that to save money, especially in relation to the cuts that we are presently taking?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Chairman. The government has the interdepartmental capital planning committee made up of heads of different departments that goes through capital needs and distribution to ensure whatever is done is coordinated.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Project management, under the operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance is $5 million. Mr. Krutko?
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to the administration of the community granular revolving fund, do you have a list of exactly where these funds have been allocated and which communities they have not been, especially in relation to my constituents? I know for a fact that it has been a number of years since Aklavik received any funds for gravel in that community. For that community I believe it was 1990 or 1991. Why is that? Why has that community not been able to access those funds?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Chairman, according to our information, yes we do have a list that we could have information available for interested Members. In Aklavik, according to our information, there is 202 cubic metres remaining of gravel supplies valued at $63,000 at this point in time.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance, $5 million. Mr. Krutko?
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the community granular revolving fund and the stockpile you are referring to, I believe, that is for the airport. Do you have a list of exactly what the gravel is for and exactly when was it allocated in regards to the year, so we have an idea of how many years it has been since this fund has been accessed by that particular community?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The honourable Minister.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Chairman, when the department has a capital project that it needs to carry out, for example the Housing Corporation intends to build several houses, or if the Department of Transportation is working on an ATB, included in those costs, capital costs, is an allowance for gravel and the department will check with the community, check the inventory, to make sure that the inventory will allow the building of these projects or take steps to make sure there is enough there. It depends on what is going to be done in that particular community.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Project management. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the needs of the community, in the case of Aklavik, I mentioned it was, I believe, it was 1990 or 1991 that they have had any gravel in that community in which they are looking at some projects which were upcoming in the next budget, regarding the renovation of the existing school, some work being done on the water treatment plant and also the public housing units that have to be built in regards to the access units. There is a real shortage of gravel in that community. I am asking the Minister to ensure that enough gravel is available to those communities. To ensure that the gravel is there before these projects happen. I believe the renovation for the school is going to take place this summer, yet there has been no gravel allocated in regards to the capital plan for that particular community. That is why I am asking for those communities, which have not had the opportunity to access this program or have not been able to, for some reason or another, receive funds through this program, be able to do so. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Chairman, there are some capital projects planned for Aklavik for the summer and beyond. The departments responsible will ensure that there is gravel that is required. The information that I have does not indicate there is not enough there right now for the summer, but if there is not, because the foundation is part of the capital project, we would make arrangements for somebody in the private sector to crush gravel. The community granular revolving fund, as some Members understand, is not a grant program. It is a revolving fund where we will make arrangements for gravel to be made available and the department that works on a capital project is charged for its use from that fund.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Project management, total operations and maintenance, $5,784,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Agreed? Thank you. Total expenditures for this activity is $5,784,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. On to page 5-10, Mrs. Groenewegen.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At this point I would like to advise Members of a business which is controlled by me, Greenway Holdings Limited, leased office space to the gas and electrical inspectors for the GNWT, fall under the auspicious of the Department of Public Works. As such I am in a conflict of consideration of this line item. I would like to declare this conflict and refrain from debating this matter with the committee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. On page 5-10, asset management, operations and maintenance, Mr. Henry.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this point I would like to advise Members of a business which I control, leases office space to the GNWT, which falls under the auspices of the Department of Public Works. As such I am in conflict of such consideration of this line item and would like to declare this conflict and refrain from debating this matter and withdraw from the committee.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, honourable Mr. Henry. Assets management, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance is $64,890,000. Agreed? Mr. Krutko?