Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we do not have that here, but we will provide that with the reconciliation. Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 19th, 1997
Topics
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I get the impression that the Minister is aware of the figure. I guess what I might want to know is, is the funding the boards will be receiving equal to the funding it cost DPW last year to maintain those buildings?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
I will ask Mr. Ramsden to speak to it. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ramsden.
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Ramsden
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The numbers are not finalized yet, and there is some discussion right now about how the actual maintenance function will be transferred, if and when. The discussions we have had so far with Public Works would suggest that there has to be the same amount of money come across. With the discussions around utilities, there has been an initiative taken to reduce the amount of utilities by some percentage, as a responsibility to pay the bills transfered over. In the maintenance side, that is not the approach that has been taken. Thank you.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, part of my question is, the overall maintenance costs, not just the cost for the utilities, but the overall maintenance costs, in other words, are the boards going to be expected to do the same job with less personnel, or contract out the service cheaper than DPW was doing it?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. While Mr. Steen is speaking, through the microphone we hear side conversations. I would like to remind the Members to show respect when the Member is speaking. We can hear you through the microphone from Mr. Steen's. We know exactly what you are saying, so please keep that in mind. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
I will ask Mr. Ramsden to speak to it again. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Ramsden
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Ramsden
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do not have the numbers and the boards do not have the numbers right now. It is our view that the approach that Public Works will take on the maintenance itself for assets, that there will be the same amount of money that they are currently using.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen. Total operations and maintenance is $98,587,000. Mr. Henry.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Have there been any employees asking for, for want of a better term, a buy out package in these recent rounds of cuts?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I am losing my patience with the extended conversations over in the corner over there. I think it should take place outside the Chambers here. Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as you know, a majority of the reductions for Health and Social Services were undertaken by the reorganization prior to this fiscal year. Those buy outs that would have taken place, have taken place. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Henry.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Have all employees that are effected by the 1997/98 year proposed budget, have all employees whose positions that will be effected, have they been notified, have they received notices of layoff at this time? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
I will ask Mr. Ramsden to speak to that.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Ramsden.
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Ramsden
Mr. Chairman, within the department, that is the case. With respect to the decentralization of Mackenzie Regional Health Services, that is not the case. We have not worked through the issues around the positions effected in total in that area yet, so we are not able to get to that position. It is not being done from a point of reduction, but there are people potentially effected in Yellowknife because of the decentralization. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Henry.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. How many positions within the department are vacant at this time?