Mr. Chairman, one of the assumptions was we could do the same job just as effectively with less senior management. We could do the same job at less cost. We could reduce the cost of the three departments by amalgamating them into one department and do it in a way that it would minimize the impact at the community and regional levels. We went on that assumption. Those assumptions, I think, prove themselves to be valued assumptions. I have no reason to believe we are less effective or less diligent in carrying out our work now than we were six months ago. Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 26th, 1997
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Corporate management. I have Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was wondering if the Minister could indicate how many affirmative action status personnel he has in the headquarters here?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Gamble.
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Gamble
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In headquarters, which does not include the Yellowknife regional office, we have 26 priority one, 10 priority two, affirmative action employees for a total of 36, out of total active employees of 95 in headquarters.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we get an indication of how many of those affirmative action status people are in management and how many are P1s?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Gamble.
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Gamble
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are 26 P1s in the headquarters and I believe one is senior manager.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Corporate management. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we get an indication if there were any people that were hired from the Personnel Secretariat once it was decided the Personnel Secretariat would be downsized?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Gamble.
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Gamble
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, there were. At the very early stages of the amalgamation, we recruited one personnel officer from the former Department of Personnel.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Can we get an indication of why it was necessary to recruit this person?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I will recognize Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, the staff person was available. We felt it was a person that had the capability of providing us with the service we required in setting up this new department. The person was an effective employee and we felt we had to look at what was available to make a decision on what we required in order to proceed with the amalgamation at the pace and the manner in which we chose. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we get an indication if this would mean there was another person working in the human resources area, in addition to the ones that were already there?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the amalgamation, we created a new department. The new department required a position to be filled and that is what we did. The previous three departments did not have anyone dedicated to that particular function. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Corporate management, operations and maintenance, total operations is $9,305,000. Do we agree? Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I see that the department also does in-service training programs. The training the staff received, what people actually took training? How many programs are taken by affirmative action status personnel and how many were taken by non-affirmative action personnel?