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Question 427-13(4): Incremental Costs Associated With Division
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. While I appreciate my colleague's question and concern, I think it is somewhat premature at this time for me to be too definitive. As I indicated the other day, I am not trying to avoid the question. I have sent out a letter asking Ministers and deputy ministers to prepare what I call a pre-implementation of division plan, both east and west. Of course, that has not been approved by Cabinet. We are just in the preliminary stages of discussing how we would go about this exercise and how, in fact, we would move towards putting some basic division organization

in place for the east in preparation for April 1, 1999. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me make the point from a slightly different angle. In headquarters, we can identify every position that is tied into headquarters as part of the headquarters operation. It is a finite number that can be counted. You can touch them, you can feel them. When we look at setting up an administrative arrangement with Nunavut so that they can have some headquarters functions, will it be done based on the resources that are currently here, as opposed to the dream in Footprints 2 that may become a reality only if there is a considerable new influx of capital from the federal government? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 427-13(4): Incremental Costs Associated With Division
Question 427-13(4): Incremental Costs Associated With Division
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it would be fair to say that this Cabinet and, of course, in my portfolio as Finance Minister, I could only deal with the current funds that we have in this government. I believe that is how we would approach it. I did indicate, I believe earlier this week, that I am hoping in our early discussions with Mr. Martin's office and the Department of Finance, there will clearly be a recognition that there are going to be some costs required prior to 1999, if we are going to get the basic infrastructure in place, east and west. That is just a reality. You cannot say on March 31st, 1999, we are going to switch off the lights and turn them back on April 1. We will work within the fiscal arrangements we currently have. At the same time, I am hoping as part of our fiscal discussions with federal finance, they will recognize the fact that we will have to move prior to 1999 and there will be some costs associated with that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Question 427-13(4): Incremental Costs Associated With Division
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate, as we charge down this path ahead of us, the timeframe in terms of being able to delineate quite clearly the number of employees and possible location of these employees so that issue, which is now a source of great concern and apprehension, can be resolved as quickly as possible and people are not left twisting in the wind? Thank you.

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Question 427-13(4): Incremental Costs Associated With Division
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

As we charge onward to division, as my honourable colleague has said, it is certainly my hope and Cabinet's hope, that we can bring some clarity to this whole issue and some timelines attached to the clarity. I think that is really what we are saying here. As I said, we are embarking on this exercise right now of trying to determine an appropriate transition strategy. Whatever our strategy is, I want it to complement the decentralized model. Although we cannot do it or cost it, there has to be preparation for it. I am optimistic that we can bring that proposal to the Members who are going to help us with this in the next 60 to 90 days. In the meantime, I want to discuss the strategy that we have to get to this stage with the Ordinary Members by the middle of next week. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the areas where this Assembly and this government have not been as successful as it could have been, is in the whole area of its communication strategy. Keeping people and staff, and even Members I suppose, up-to-date on the various initiatives that we have as a government. Selling the things we have done, then people know where we are going. This critical initiative is going to require special attention. Thank you. Two conversations at once. That is very good, Mr. Minister.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Have you asked your question yet, Mr. Miltenberger? Ask your question.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister was engaged in such a spirited side conversation that I was not sure I had his undivided attention. The question to the Minister is, will he in fact commit to having a well thought-out, practical communications strategy that is going to be critical for this particular issue on this campaign towards division?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to assure my honourable colleague I am capable of doing two things at once. As a matter of fact, I juggle many things in this job that I have. I want to assure him that communications, particularly right now as there is an air of anxiety as he has frequently told me, are vital as we move forward on this road towards division. I want to assure him that I will seek his counsel, as I will seek others, in developing an appropriate communications strategy on this important issue of division. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. At this point, I would like to recognize some people in the gallery from Hay River. There is a gentleman who is on the town council by the name of Robert Bouchard. There is also Jeff Griffiths of the South Slave Business Development Corporation. There are also some students that are here to look at the BHP job opportunities and

they are in the gallery right now, very interested and very enthusiastic about becoming perhaps future leaders. Their names are Heather Hamilton, Harry Smith, Gloria Hopkins, Nadia Readman and Jason Zebedee. Welcome to the Assembly.

-- Applause

Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.

Question 428-13(4): Update On Northern Accord Negotiations
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, during the review of the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, I asked a question of the Minister regarding the northern accord. The Minister stated that questions regarding that would have to be answered by the Premier. So, my question would be for the Premier. I wonder if he could give me an update as to what is transpiring with regard to the northern accord negotiations? Thank you.

Question 428-13(4): Update On Northern Accord Negotiations
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A couple of weeks ago, myself and the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs met with the Aboriginal Summit. We raised the issue of the northern accord. Some time ago, in early fall - late summer, I sent out a framework agreement to the aboriginal organizations to take a look at. The majority of the aboriginal organizations at that time did not agree with that framework agreement so they asked us to redo it. We are doing that. I told the Aboriginal Summit I am willing to do that and try to develop a document that will be more acceptable to them. Our staff is presently working on that and we will make another proposal to them. I also made it very clear that I am not interested in spending a lot of money or time on an issue I cannot go anywhere on. I need commitments from them that we are going to proceed with a commitment-in-principle of doing that, taking control of northern resources and bringing it into the hands of northerners rather than the federal government or some bureaucrats in Ottawa making decisions on what happens in the north. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 428-13(4): Update On Northern Accord Negotiations
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Premier tell us if he has a possible timeframe for completing this negotiation process with the aboriginal groups to try and bring some completion to this project? Could he enlighten us as to the timeframe on it? Thank you.

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Question 428-13(4): Update On Northern Accord Negotiations
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As far as the timeframe goes on completion of the northern accord negotiations, at this time I would not like to put a timeframe on it. I know that, unless we proceed fairly swiftly on this issue, unless we agree as northerners on the general principles of bringing northern resource control into the hands of northerners, we will not be able to do it in the life of this Assembly. We also have a federal government election looming that will affect the timing of this issue. I do not know whether it is going to be a spring election or a fall election. That all reflects on the timing. I would be better able to answer that question with more certainty by June, this spring session. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.