Thank you, Madam Chair. Throughout all departments' business plans we have tried to deal with forced growth. Through your budget there are areas where I see we are putting new items in, new equipment, there is a cost to putting these on an ongoing cost. Has the department done any work in the area of monitoring the growing cost of O and M and of having to replace these facilities on the life expectancy of a facility of a garage or of a grader or of a vehicle in a community? Has the department been monitoring these costs or projected costs? Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 28th, 1997
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Chair. That is done through the capital planning process. Yes, to the Member. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chair. So this has been monitored as the ongoing costs of this equipment and dealing with forced growth. Has the department been looking at, in the years to come, that we will be looking at our dollars that are pretty well flat-lined for resources, where are we heading? Are we going to finding communities where they have a new facility but cannot afford to use it? That is actually starting to happen today. My concern is in the area that we are continuing to do a lot of these to try and empower communities, to make them better, and at the same time communities are having a hard time coming up with the dollars to keep these facilities going.
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the simple answer to the Member's question is, yes. Forced growth that results from the construction of capital facilities is factored into the department's operational plan. The department's five-year capital plan identified a number of projects. For each of those projects, there are O and M projections that are done in terms of what it is going to cost to either operate or replace that equipment at some point or to operate the facilities that are indicated.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chair. With these projections, is there a red line somewhere that says we are beyond what we can now handle as a government and as community governments when it comes having the resources to keep all of these facilities going? Can we continue to afford to build all these places, put them in place and operate them in the years to come?
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Ballantyne
Thank you. The Member raises a good point. We are okay in the short-term. If you are asking me to look in the long-term, obviously there is a concern if we stay in the kind of fiscal situation we are in now because of the rate of growth in many of the communities. In our department, so far, we have been able to keep up with the essential projects we see communities need. So far we are not encountering a problem. We are not anticipating one in the near future. We are certainly not at the point where we are unable to meet the basic demands of communities, but I cannot claim to speak on behalf of all of the community infrastructure that is required. So far, in MACA, we are managing. If we had more money, yes
we could build more. There are other needs that are there, but so far we are covering all the bases. Thank you.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mrs. Ballantyne. I have Mr. Krutko, Mr. Ootes, and Mr. O'Brien. Mr. Krutko.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The motion is in order. It is not debatable. All those in favour of the motion? All those opposed to the motion? Thank you. The motion is carried. I will now rise and report progress. Thank you, Madam Minister. Thank you, Mr. Christensen and Mrs. Ballantyne.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The House will come back to order. We are on item 20, report of committee of the whole. Mrs. Groenewegen.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997/98 and Committee Report 03-13(4) and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with. Thank you.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Seconded by Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, orders of the day for Saturday, March 1, 1997:
1. Prayer
2. Ministers' Statements
3. Members' Statements
4. Returns to Oral Questions
5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
6. Oral Questions
7. Written Questions
8. Returns to Written Questions
9. Replies to Opening Address
10. Petitions
11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
13. Tabling of Documents
14. Notices of Motion
15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
16. Motions
17. First Reading of Bills
- Bill 11, Loan Authorization Act
18. Second Reading of Bills
19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Bill 2, Justice Administration Statutes, Amending Act
- Bill 7, Municipal Statutes, Amending Act
- Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997-98
- Bill 9, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1996-97
- Bill 10, Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 3, 1996-1997
- Bill 12, Student Financial Assistance Act
- Committee Report 2-13(4), Standing Committee on Government Operations, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 3-13(4), Standing Committee on Infrastructure, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 4-13(4), Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 6-13(4), Standing Committee on Social Programs, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates
20. Report of Committee of the Whole
21. Third Reading of Bills
22. Orders of the Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. By the authority given the Speaker by Motion 03-13(4) I hereby order the House to sit on Saturday, March 1st, 1997, from 10:00 in the morning until 2:00 in the afternoon.
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