This is page numbers 985 - 1015 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Honourable Samuel Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh God, may your spirit and guidance be in us. As we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Good morning, Members. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Recollections Of Al Woodhouse
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday Mr. Dent announced the Al Woodhouse Memorial Bursary. Mr. Woodhouse and I were friends for several years as board members with community futures. In 1992, when I became manager of the Baffin Business Development Centre, Mr. Woodhouse was the person who signed my cheques. Mr. Speaker, Al had a very developed sense of humour. In 1990, Al and I, along with several Northerners were in Calgary for the Federal Liberal Leadership Convention. It was at that convention we elected John Chretien leader of the Federal Liberal Party. Al and I pulled off a classic joke on Mr. Todd. That story will have to be told at another time.

Al Woodhouse and I travelled at various times to most Baffin communities and some southern locales with community futures. One memorable trip we made was to Pang. Flying into Pang, the weather was getting stormy and the plane was bouncing around pretty good. Al knew that I did not like flying at the best of times and came to sit next to me. Al went on to tell me that if the plane went down, the best place to be was at the back of the plane. The only problem being we were sitting as far front on the plane as you could probably get. Al knew that and had a good laugh. Mr. Speaker, Al Woodhouse was well known all over Nunavut for his balloon figures, which he would make for the children. Anytime Al saw me with my kids, he always remembered their names and used to do little tricks with balloons for them. Mr. Speaker, Al Woodhouse was a co-worker and a friend, and I congratulate Nunavut Arctic College and the Iqaluit Rotary Club on their bursary that Mr. Dent announced yesterday. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Recollections Of Al Woodhouse
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ningark.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. I would like to recognize in the public gallery, Tom Suvissak from Pelly Bay.

--Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

Good morning and welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees for the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for the first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters. Bills 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12; Committee Report 2, 3, 4, and 6 with Mr. Ningark in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, good morning. I would like to call the committee to order. We have a number of items for the committee. Item 19. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Ootes.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That we consider Bill 8, Committee Reports 2, 3, 4 and 6 concurrently and continue with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Do we have the concurrence with the committee that we shall do as the chairman of the OMC indicated to us? Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are on page 4-16, 1997/98 main estimates. I would like to ask the honourable Minister if you wish to bring in the witnesses.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, I will, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, seat the witnesses please. Thank you. For the record, Madam Minister, would you please introduce the witnesses to the committee?

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Sorry, I did not hear you.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Madam Minister, would you please introduce the witnesses to the committee?

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Yes, Mr. Chair. I have to my left, Penny Ballantyne, deputy minister for MACA and to my right is Vern Christensen, ADM for MACA. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, welcome to the committee. We are reviewing the 1997/98 main estimates of Municipal and Community Affairs, page 4-16, community development, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance is $61,622,000. Agreed? Mr. Ootes.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yesterday we spoke about communication with communities and the Minister spoke about 79 presentations being made regarding community empowerment. Could the Minister clarify that some more for me? Were these presentations made directly to community representatives or were they with territorial government staff that are involved with community empowerment and perhaps other territorial staff? My concern, Mr. Chairman, is the level of communication that is taking place with community leaders. The amount of communication that is taking place with them. My concern being that community people really understand what is being offered and the programs available, not only the implications of what is happening with regard to community empowerment.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Madame Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have done presentations mostly to counsellors, but we also have done presentations to band members, to Metis councils and to the public. We have also done presentations to regional leadership meetings and we have done presentations to just about every organization that involves communities. I have also done radio programs in Inuktitut for the eastern Arctic. The communities know what has been happening with community empowerment since we took the lead in MACA. We have done community presentations through all different kinds of agencies. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, in Yellowknife, the city leaders have taken the initiative to conduct future focus meetings with specific target groups, the seniors, youth, people interested in mining development and business people. The idea being these individuals have the opportunity to provide input to the community leaders as to their feelings about the takeover of services, so the leadership becomes more educated. I have attended several of them and they used a facilitator to conduct these meetings. The leadership finds these extremely helpful because it gives them the feel of what people really want. The people of our community have future-focus types of meetings with the use of a facilitator being held in communities throughout the north. So, it is not the government staff just making presentations to community leaders, but the community itself has the opportunity to discuss this in some detail and with some understanding, so there is not a forced-feeding of information. In other words, it is coming from the community itself.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will ask Mrs. Ballantyne to do a detailed information to the Member. We have been doing information presentations to communities through our co-ordinators in each region. Those have gone well. Those were just to introduce the package. Of course, we would have facilitators for these communities. I will get Penny to elaborate on that.