Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Steen.
Debates of Jan. 29th, 1998
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The Chair John Ningark
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, could the Minister confirm then that although he might be involved in the establishment and the monitoring of the policies, such as the business incentive policy, he is not responsible for administering the policy?
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
The Minister of RWED has the authority to administer the policy. That is correct.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, your time is up Mr. Steen. Since we have not made any progress in the last hour, I will be handing the chair over to you shortly, Mr. Steen. Thank you. Total operations and maintenance, $20,651,000. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not sure if this is the proper area but is the FMBS in charge of looking after appeals of people who do not feel that they have been treated fairly in the hiring process?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I am advised Mr. Erasmus, that the item you are dealing with is on page 2-27, we have not concluded page 2-26. We are dealing with 2-26 Financial Management Board Secretariat directorate. Total operations and maintenance is $20,651,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total expenditures $20,651,000. Agreed? Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wish to follow up a little more on the policies governing subsidies. I understand from the Minister that administration of the policies is the responsibility of the departments. I would like to ask the Minister if his department has any input as to the amount of funds that would be available for these particular departments to administer these budgets or these subsidies.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
I wonder if my colleague would repeat the question. My apologies, I did not quite fully understand the question. Would he repeat the question again please?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen would you mind repeating the question please. Thank you.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if the Minister of the Financial Management Board is responsible to ensure that everybody abides by the rules or spends their department's funds appropriately, is the Minister also involved then in how much we have allocated to a certain subsidy?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, your discretion, Mr. Minister if you want to disagree to the answer.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
I think Mr. Steen if he is still on BIP, he sees it as a subsidy. I see it as an equalization and an incentive for northern business. If that is what he is eluding to, the other subsidies are water and sewer subsidies, power subsidies, et cetera. These are all built into the overall fiscal framework of the government and they are included in the departmental budgets that individual Ministers monitor and authorize and report on. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total expenditures, $20,651,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Do we have an overall figure of how much the BIP costs this government on a yearly basis, this past year then?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I am informed or advised that a central policy is with the Minister of RWED. We should try and stick to what is under the Financial Management Board Directorate but I will allow Minister Todd to respond if he wishes to. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Well again, Mr. Chairman you are correct that detailed question should be asked to the Minister of RWED. I think it is important to point out that this government does not see the business incentive policy as a subsidy. We see it as an equalization policy that ensures the northern businesses have a level playing field and a fair and accurate ability to generate the kinds of project that they have done over the last two or three years. I believe the Minister said some time ago that we think it is a highly successful one as we now have got close to 94 percent of all of our government contracts in the hands of northerners. In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, I would suggest that my honourable colleague ask that question of Mr. Kakfwi and he will be able to give him the full details I am sure. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total expenditures, $20,651,000. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It seems to me that the BIP is a program that the area it is used in is more than just the RWED so I do not know if the RWED Minister would have the proper information to indicate how much it costs because every different department is affected by the BIP, and it seems that only FMB is the area that would have this type of information. This is why I am asking the Minister if he has those numbers.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.