Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I mentioned before, not all situations where documents are seized would necessarily come to the attention of the Comptroller General and the Financial Management Board Secretariat. With respect to what courtesy or notice the RCMP would choose to give to the government when they are obtaining documents, I would have to leave that for the RCMP to speak to. They have not chosen, if they have obtained documents, to explain their reasons to us.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On another subject. Is the Financial Management Board responsible for policies that apply to grants of this government?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We set the broad framework for the grants that this government gives, the actual detail how the grants are given out and who they are given out to, et cetera, I
s determined by the department to the Ministers and their deputies. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can I assume then that ultimately if a subsidy is approved by this government, the Financial Management Board will be involved in approving the subsidy?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Not necessarily, Mr. Chairman.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, is the Financial Management Board involved in this subsidy called a BIP?
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The Chair John Ningark
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is a Cabinet approved policy and not the FMB.
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The Chair John Ningark
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, are we splitting hairs here? I have been told the Financial Management Board is made up of Cabinet. Are we splitting hairs here?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
The Cabinet approves the policy with respect to the businesses and the policy. The Cabinet. It is not splitting hairs. Cabinet and the FMB have two separate, to some extent, mandates.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance, $20 million. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Is the Financial Management Board, Mr. Chairman involved in who would be responsible for implementing a subsidy?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
My understanding is what my honourable colleague is talking is about the BIP and that is administered by the Minister of RWED, the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I have been informed more than once that the Financial Management Board is the watchdog of this government, over all policies, departments, human resources, the total operations of this government in other words, in particular, in financial situations. Surely, the Minister must have some responsibilities in approving subsidies. Could I get some indication from the Minister whether this is a fair conclusion to draw?
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, my honourable colleague has a way of getting to a point. Sometimes I am never quite sure where he is going. Let me try to put it into a way that is explainable. I have the responsibility, as Chairman of the Financial Management Board, to monitor, if you want, the overall budgetary and fiscal requirements of this government. Each individual Minister is given a budget in accordance with the way in which it is shared. They have the responsibility for monitoring their individual budgets and the policies from within. So yes, I have an overall responsibility. Let us say for example, if there is a cost attached to debt, it would be in the RWED budget, which is the responsibility of Mr. Kakfwi. But the overall responsibility for coordinating the government's fiscal resources and ensuring eliminating the debts and elimination strategy and meeting the targets that we have set, et cetera, lies with the FMB and the chairman of the FMB. Thank you.