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Member's Statement 253-13(5): Midget Hockey Selection
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

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Member's Statement 253-13(5): Midget Hockey Selection
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I unfortunately rise again to speak about the midget hockey selection process for the Arctic Winter Games. Mr. Speaker, I say it is unfortunate because in an ideal world, or even one where there is common sense, this kind of situation should not have to be dragged into the floor of the Assembly and brought before the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Until the Minor Hockey Association and Sport North can get their act together and respond to the questions arising from the selection process for midget hockey, I feel there is no choice but to bring this matter up in this House. There is a lot at stake here, Mr. Speaker. There has been a lot of time and effort spent. This issue has now been in the public for a number of weeks. The Minister has tried to resolve this situation, but I do not think her officials or the minor hockey officials have given her the specific responses that she needs to be able to reply to the concerned parents and players.

There are outstanding issues with the players' evaluations, the list of alternates, the fact that an all-star game was played under the guise of being a meaningful part of the process. In fact, it appears that the team was picked before the all-star game and the all-star players even skated on the ice. There is a situation with the Air Canada cup, which normally goes to the winner of the tournament, which was a team from the South Slave. After the fact the minor hockey chooses to make a reversal of this position it seems and go with the all-star Arctic Winter Games team contrary to all the other standard practices in regard to the Air Canada cup. As well, the president of the Midget Hockey, Mr. Bedard has yet to actually formally contact any of the concerned families or hockey players except through a fax. A very impersonal, casual brush off of very legitimate concerns. I would like to ask the Minister if she would again look a little further into this matter. I commend her for the work she has done so far, but I believe it is time for the officials involved to come up with some clear straight answers. Do not slag people off. There is a lot at stake here. There are some young people who have devoted a lot of time and effort to take part in what they thought was a fair and open process. From what I can see, that has not been the case. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 253-13(5): Midget Hockey Selection
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Member's Statement 254-13(5): Termination Benefits For Laidoff Employees
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been told there is a great deal of disgruntlement from laidoff employees about the administration of their termination benefits. Many are still on strength and I have again been told they feel they have difficulty in notifying and are reluctant to notify their MLAs with these particular problems. Some of these layoffs were expected by the affected employees; some were justified under the judgement of performance and some were a total surprise to the employees. However, all are hurting somewhat. When they turn to personnel officers to arrange their respective termination, there are issues of unused vacation time, severance pay and length of notice period in which they are still on strength and finally, pension. There are many combinations and permutations of these benefits which vary depending on many factors such as length of service, age, type of layoff et cetera.

There is no central specialist on these benefit issues. Each department's personnel officer is supposed to know the answers. However, they do not. An officer in one department gives one response and contradictory decision comes from another department. For example, can I use part of my severance to extend my service for some months and get the rest of the severance entitlement paid out as cash? One officer says yes. Another says no. You must choose to take severance as a total payout or totally use it up in extending service.

For public servants who have contributed the prime time of their lives to the NWT and are smarting from the method of a layoff, it is insulting to find that the employer does not even know what the provisions of a layoff are. Do the employees from the departments with more knowledgeable personnel officers get better deals? That is a question, Mr. Speaker. No doubt, the personnel officers, themselves, are exasperated and feel threatened for not having the proper answers for irate employees or giving wrong answers. This is a result of eliminating the Department of Personnel and not retaining the expertise it had in another form, especially with all the pending layoff situations that must have been anticipated. At this vulnerable and confusing point in their lives, the government they have dedicated themselves to is unable to give them the straight information they need to get on with their lives. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 254-13(5): Termination Benefits For Laidoff Employees
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Members' statements. Mr. Ningark.

Member's Statement 255-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I listen with intent when the Honourable Goo Arlooktoo made a statement regarding camp for adult offenders. I agree with the Minister when he talks about the need to strike a balance between ensuring public safety and maximizing opportunities for offenders to return to being productive members of society. I also agree when he talks about the meaning of the wonderful thing that the camp will do for the community. However, Mr. Speaker, one area that I have not heard the honourable Minister talk about is a program for the Natilikmiot region. The honourable Minister talks about and I quote, "over the past year, community members have established eight camps for adult male offenders across the NWT, in cooperation with Correctional Services. Camps are located near Rae Lakes, Pellet Lake, near Lupin Mine, Hay River, Fort Smith, Pond Inlet, Aklavik, Fort McPherson and most recently, Fort Providence." He also talks about programs for Arviat and Pangnirtung. My question is, Mr. Speaker, what about the Natilikmiot region? Do we have the lowest incarceration rate in the NWT or is Natilikmiot a low priority? Where does the Natilikmiot region come in? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 255-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr.

Roland.

Member's Statement 256-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Transaction
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I had an opportunity to travel back home to my community of Inuvik and spend time with family as well as individuals of the community. Mr. Speaker, the issue of the Lahm Ridge Tower has been in the air and people have been discussing it for quite a lengthy time. It has gone on and on and on. It is like a record that keeps on bouncing and going back to the same subject.

Mr. Speaker, the people out there, who do not see all the picture or just see part of the picture, are concerned. There was reference made to me about, as a representative of this government, how does it feel to be part of a banana republic? Mr. Speaker, I did not run in a campaign to be stamped, painted and put into this category - not without my own doing anyway. I would say, in reference to when somebody thought it and would put me down, I thought about what we are doing as a government. On many occasions I have stood up here and talked about the people we represent, the hard job we have done in balancing the budget and trying to move ahead and do the good things the people are expecting of us. It is that kind of situation, Mr. Speaker that, indeed, put us into a bad light. We need to deal with the issue by whatever means, but deal with it and move on with business. I, myself, have listened to many questions and have not taken part, but there are a number of questions I feel need to be answered when I am reviewing all of the information. There are too much lying and moving around and not being clarified. It is time to get some clarity and deal with the issue and put it to rest. Instead of being referred to as a Banana Republic, we can be referred to as a responsible government that is taking care of some difficult situations and made the right choices to move forward, in that we can truly say the 13th Assembly represented the people of the territories to the best of its ability and made wise and right choices. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 256-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Transaction
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Thompson.

Return To Oral Question 281-13(5): Termination Of Northwest Territories Ski Coach
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Krutko on February 11, 1998, termination of NWT ski coach.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs provided $10,000 during 1997-98 for this position. The NWT ski division also obtained funding from Human Resources Canada to support his paid coaching position and expand its programs into 12 communities through a training and employment program for community coaches.

On February 5th, the NWT ski coach received a termination letter from NWT ski division effective immediately. Staff from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs met with both parties and reviewed the events that led to the termination.

I am advised that the termination provision of the employment contract was followed. The NWT ski division has acted within its authority in terminating this contract and is accountable to its membership for this decision. Thank you.

Return To Oral Question 281-13(5): Termination Of Northwest Territories Ski Coach
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine.

Return To Oral Question 240-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Renewal; 286-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Renewal; 304-13(5): Responses To Previous Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a return to oral questions asked by Mr. Ootes, February 6th, 11th, and 12th, 1998, in regard to Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Renewal.

Mr. Al Marceau did not contact the Department of Public Works and Services within three or four months before July, 1997. Public Works and Services had brief contact with Mr. Marceau and his company in November, 1996 and in January and February, 1997, to confirm the over hold status of the lease.

Departmental officials were not engaged in negotiations about the lease extension or about Lahm Ridge Tower, prior to August 3, 1997 with individuals outside the department other than the owner, Mr. Marceau.

Mr. Speaker, I also have another return to oral questions. This one was asked by Mr. Krutko on February 11, 1998 in regard to the cost of Yellowknife office lease renewals.

Return To Oral Question 293-13(5): Costs Of Yellowknife Office Lease Renewals
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

The renewal costs of the four office leases renewed in Yellowknife in the past two years are as follows:

- Centre Square $4.7 million

- Lahm Ridge Tower $8.9 million

- Northern United Place $12.1 million

- Professional Building $1.5 million

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Oral Question 293-13(5): Costs Of Yellowknife Office Lease Renewals
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.

Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for my honourable colleague, Mr. Arlooktoo, regarding a camp for adult offenders across the NWT. As I indicated in my Member's statement, when I asked a question, where does the Kitikmeot region stand in all the programs across the NWT? Mr. Speaker, I have stood up in this House in the past talking about a request of Gjoa Haven to have a hunter's camp within the community. I do not know if the Minister was the Minister of the department, but I have, indeed, spoken about this to other Ministers about the request to have the camp for young offenders, especially.

Mr. Speaker, the Hamlet of Gjoa Haven and the public of Gjoa Haven has approached me to request a program. As I noted in my statement earlier, just about every other region has enjoyed such a program except the Kitikmeot region. My question is, where does the Kitikmeot stand, according to the Minister of Justice? Thank you.

Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Justice, Mr. Arlooktoo.

Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The issue of where camps is located is one that I have looked into and it is clear to me that there is a bit of an imbalance of how many camps there are, for example, on the Nunavut side and the western side. There are several reasons for this, but one of the more important ones, one I would suggest, is the lack of a camp near the Kitikmeot communities. Although, I did say there was one in Pellet Lake, which in most peoples' eyes, is in the Kitikmeot. The communities and the regions need to be more assertive, aggressive and work more closely with the Department of Justice in putting these camps together. I will say to the Member that the Department of Justice is serious in its interest to work with the MLA in the community to see what we can to do make a young offender's camp a reality in the Kitikmeot region. Thank you.

Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Second supplementary, Mr. Ningark.

Supplementary To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Pellet Lake does not stand in the middle of Kitikmeot region nor close to my communities of Pelly Bay, Gjoa Haven or Taloyoak. It is closer to the treeline than anywhere else. Mr. Speaker, how soon will the Minister refocus or re-evaluate his priorities? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

Further Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can ask the department immediately to look at past correspondence to see what has been discussed so far. There are several things we need to look at. One is the number of suitable offenders, so to speak. You do not want offenders in camps who could be a possible danger to themselves or to others. The other thing is you need the cooperation of the community, and you need suitable candidates to run these camps. I can look into it immediately. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ningark.

Supplementary To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When we talked about a need for offenders, I think, at the same time we have to look at a need for victims. My question is, will the Minister communicate with me before the end of the month about his plan? Thank you.

Further Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is yes I will keep in contact with the Member on that. The other thing we need to keep in mind, when we are talking about these young offenders camps, is the amount of resources that the Department of Justice does or does not have. I do need to point out the fact there are limited funds in the department for this program, but we realize the importance and usefulness of having some classes of offenders to be out, either in camp-style or group home-style situations, rather than in institutions. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Question 326-13(5): Kitikmeot-based Adult Offenders Camps
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.