Agreed.
Debates of Feb. 17th, 1998
Topics
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Public stores revolving fund, information item on page 5-19. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Page 5-20, granular program revolving fund. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to this particular matter, the community of Aklavik has been trying to obtain gravel in their community or to have it stock piled because Aklavik is an isolated community where they can only get gravel in the winter months. In order for any development to take place in the summer season in regard to building housing units or doing any road maintenance, there are no real dollars in the community for gravel which has been taken out of the system. What does it take for the community to access this $11 million for gravel in the community of Aklavik?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The deputy minister.
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Lovely
Mr. Chairman, this is one of those complicated revolving funds that is sometimes difficult to explain. What we have done over the years is, funded our cost of producing gravel in communities through a revolving fund. The gravel that
is needed for foundations in communities is stock piled in a variety of locations depending on what projects are planned for the coming years. We sometimes have to go a couple of years in advance because of blasting and the need to get equipment in, particularly in the eastern Arctic, in Nunavut. We spend the money to stock pile the gravel, and then we recover the money because it is a revolving fund. We have to pay the money back. We recover the money from the projects which are built. So if DOT had an airport terminal building planned for Aklavik, for example, or Arctic Bay, they would buy the gravel from us, and then we would reimburse the revolving fund for the costs. There is no actual money there in cash to provide to communities or to organizations for a granular fund. It is a fund that was established specifically to allow us to pay for the gravel upfront and then recover the cost through sales. That is what the purpose of the fund is. If a community has construction projects planned for upcoming fiscal years, depending on what the availability of gravel is in that location, we might go in to stock pile it and use the revolving fund to do that. On the other hand, if gravel is readily available, we would simply use existing stores. I am not sure if there is a stock pile in Aklavik.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is exactly the reason I am asking the question because Aklavik is supposedly getting an addition to their school this summer. There is going to be money allocated to upgrade the water treatment facility which is in the capital plan. That is the reason the community has been asking for it, to ensure there is adequate gravel in the communities. They have been trying to access funds to bring the gravel into the community and stock pile it so when these activities happen, they have a stock pile in the community. In the case of Aklavik which sits on a flood plain because of its location, most of the time that is the only gravel they can depend on until the following spring where they can haul it out because there are no all-season roads in the area. It basically only has access with airports. This is why I am asking the Minister or deputy minister if they can work along with Aklavik to ensure they have these dollars available to them when these facilities are being built, especially in the case of the summer - it is almost spring time - and the school addition is supposed to be constructed this summer and the same thing, with the upgrade of the water treatment plant, which has been allocated for this and next year.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Would you ensure the supplies, Mr. Minister?
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We will work with the honourable Member and the community of Aklavik to make sure they have sufficient gravel this year for these upcoming projects and we will get back to him. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. On the same page I have Mr. Miltenberger.
Committee Motion 16-13(5): Extend Sitting Hours
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that we extend sitting hours to conclude the matter under discussion, mainly the main estimates for the final three pages, for the Department of Public Works and Services.
Committee Motion 16-13(5): Extend Sitting Hours
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The Chair John Ningark
There is a motion moved by the honourable Member for Thebacha to extend the sitting hours until we conclude this particular department. The motion is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. We shall sit here until we conclude this department. Thank you. Granular program revolving fund. Agreed?
Committee Motion 16-13(5): Extend Sitting Hours
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Detail of work performed on behalf of third parties, page 5-22. Agreed?
Committee Motion 16-13(5): Extend Sitting Hours
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Page 5-22, total department, $3.125 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We move back to program summary on page 5-5, Public Works and Services program summary, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $59.626 million. Agreed?
Committee Motion 16-13(5): Extend Sitting Hours
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Capital, total capital, $1.726 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total expenditures, $61.352 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.