Debates of Feb. 25th, 1998

This is page numbers 1093 - 1140 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Federal Budget
Forest Management And The Economy
Status Of Women Council Appointments
Income Support Appeals
Comments On Federal Budget
Rae-edzo Municipal Funding
Baker Lake Inuit Heritage Centre
Anonymous Note Incident
Response To Comments Of Members
Legislative Assembly Artwork And Carvings
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Legislative Assembly Artwork And Carvings
Income Support Appeal Process
Federal Reference To Incremental Funding
Policy On Government Gifts
Minister's Statement On The Federal Budget
Social Impacts Of Diamond Mining
Federal Funding For Students
Status Of Nunavut Act Amendments
Block Funding For Baker Lake
Transfer Of Funding To Tuktoyaktuk
Federal Budget Impacts On The Nwt
Nunavut Unified Court System
Icebreaking Services In The North
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
Tabled Document 59-13(5): Section 11, Potential Conflicts Of Interest Provisions In Confidential Offering Memorandum, Aurora Fund Ii
Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Recommendation To Provide Additional Financial Support To The Tl'oondih Healing Society
To Ensure That Hospitals And Health Care Centres Proceed As Scheduled
Committee Motion: 26-13(5) Purchase Of A Mammogram Machine For The People Of The Nwt
Recommendation To Ensure Aboriginal Organizations Can Deliver Health Programs
Recommendation To Provide Fair And Equitable Access To Compassionate Travel
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng, do you

wish to respond?

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Chairman, I can commit as soon as possible once we resolve these issues. I will advise the Baffin members and the Nunavut Caucus and all Members.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Total region, $200,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister had mentioned earlier, and I would like some clarification on this $44 million, that is identified in the book was probably more like $22 million. Did I understand him correctly? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I used the figure of $25 million, I believe. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I take it that figure came about since the preparation of this documentation here then, the $25 million as opposed to the $44 million that is identified?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $25 million came about as a result of some preliminary estimates we undertook and put forward, I believe it was this past summer or early spring. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am more confused now. Were these documents printed after the negotiations where the figures were on to $25 million now? Are these documents that are in front of us for the present budget printed before we received the $25 million? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, basically, yes. We had a figure, but the public disclosure and the discussions with the Baffin board at that time had been ongoing. We could have gone back and changed this figure, but we chose to continue on. It was not, we thought, a big issue. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wondered whether it was a big figure or not. I think it was a reasonably sized figure but not a big concern right now and the question of when in the future years anticipated, on this particular project, when is the $25 million going to be required? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If it were the regular capital planning cycle and we were paying for it totally within this government, we would have to cash flow the project over a number of years depending on construction fees. But certainly, the bulk of the money would not start until the substantive construction started in the year that it would have happened. As it stands now, because we are looking at the possibility of doing it under the P3 those are the capital requirements of this government, in that respect and will not be as significant. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Mr. Ng. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would relay the same question to each of these projects. If you use the P3, does the Minister anticipate financing would be much easier to get? Would this be required either way, next year or the year after even if it goes P3 or regular GNWT construction? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, with projects of this type of size and magnitude, it would not be expected that any significant draw would be required until, at the earliest, 1999, and subsequent years to that, I believe, under either financing method. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Henry.