This is page numbers 1177 - 1204 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister indicated what occurred at the last meeting. Could he indicate when this last meeting occurred?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Yes, I can provide that to the Member probably within a half hour.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister had also indicated that there is no consensus among the aboriginal governments involved in the discussions in the past. Could the Minister indicate what the federal government's position is on this particular matter? Is there a requirement for an aboriginal consensus on this particular matter before it can move forward?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I understand it, the federal government requires us to show that all the aboriginal groups support the Northern Accord in order for the federal government to proceed. They do not qualify by saying any objections should have some substance to it. They do not indicate whether or not, say, 80 percent of the aboriginal groups would constitute sufficient support to proceed. It sounds like you do not have to give a reason to not show support, and everybody has to agree before anything can happen. It is not possible.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It almost sounds as though the federal government wants this initiative to fail so things will remain the way they are. Mr. Chairman, I do not have any further questions at this time, but it is just an observation that without having a reasonable answer as to why you are against something. Anybody can be against anything for some reason that perhaps might not even make sense. It is difficult to rationalize the federal government's position. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. That was an opinion. There was no question. On the list I have Mr. Picco and Mr. Henry. Mr. Picco, we are dealing with resource management and economic development. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, under Fisheries, I raise some concerns with the allocation for the shrimp quota and some other areas concerning the quotas of fish. The situation is that, indeed, the federal Fisheries department has been allocating more fish per quota in straddling areas and stocks adjacent to Baffin Island and Nunavut region. Our concern, Mr. Chairman, is indeed to make sure that fish, which is located in our waters, is allocated to our fishermen. Can the Minister at this time update us on the status of the fisheries' quotas? Did we get the quota that we had asked for? Is the Minister lobbying the Department of Fisheries to make sure the Nunavut fishing interests are represented at the federal table? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Following some discussions with the Member from Iqaluit and other Members of Nunavut, we have contacted the federal Minister of Fisheries. We have asked that we be consulted and our position be taken into consideration before the allocation of shrimp is made. We have made the relevant point to the Minister and suggested we be prepared to meet if that would be useful to him at this time. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Member for Iqaluit, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have to thank the Minister for following up on my concerns with the allocation of the shrimp stocks and the fishing stocks off of Baffin Island and the Nunavut settlement region. Has the Department of Fisheries, responded to the Minister? I know the Minister has said we have made our points to them to take our points into consideration. That happened last year, Mr. Chairman, and indeed Nunavut Tungavik Incorporated actually had to take the Department of Federal Fisheries to court and actually won a decision because they had not taken into consideration NTI's position. Has the Department of Fisheries come back with a positive response to the conversations and the contact that the Minister's department has had with our federal counterparts? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you. We have been working on this file for a few years now, and we try to keep the MLAs informed, as well as the Nunavut Wildlife Management Board and the relevant community and Inuit leaders who have an interest in this file. It has been an ongoing fight in the previous government. Titus Allooloo, myself, and other previous Ministers of Renewable Resources have all worked on this file. Mr. Goo Arlooktoo, who has a keen interest in working to support myself as the Minister responsible, also is doing quite a bit of work on the Atlantic Fisheries and on this file. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I know they are all doing a lot of work on the file, I am not saying they are not. What I was asking at the time was that, indeed, we have contacted Federal Fisheries, and you have made our concerns known but have they come back with any type of positive response? Have they said, yes, indeed when the quota is allocated, you will know? Did they ask for more scientific information or data from the department? I believe a couple of months ago, Mr. Kakfwi was telling me the federal and territorial fisheries Ministers had requested a meeting maybe in Nunavut or in Iqaluit itself or somewhere in the Northwest Territories. Could we get an update on that to the federal and territorial fisheries Ministers meeting? I believe there was one going to be held in Nunavut. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have not received a response to our letter to the Minister. Hopefully, we will receive one before the allocation is made. Better still, if it is a favourable allocation, perhaps that would be contained in the letter which I hope to receive very shortly. We will check with the Minister's office to see if we could try to prompt a positive and quick response, to our last letter. As far as meetings are concerned, of course, we take every occasion to try to locate meetings in the Arctic, in the Northwest Territories. Meetings with Ministers responsible for Fisheries, the Council for Atlantic Fisheries, we would try to locate them in the Arctic as the Member has suggested. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Henry. We are dealing with considering resource management and economic development, page 11-10. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Following up on questions raised by Mr. Erasmus regarding the Northern Accord. I have also heard from senior officials of DIAND that the department would not consider any discussions or negotiations on the Northern Accord without 100 percent concurrence of the aboriginal groups. As Mr. Erasmus has stated, this is a way the federal government says we do not want to negotiate if they put that initial requirement to commence negotiations. We hear about the Aboriginal Summit not getting 100 percent unanimous consent to proceed with negotiations. My question to the Minister is, how does the department or the Minister ascertain how the rest of the population of the Northwest Territories feel in regard to negotiating a Northern Accord? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.