Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Minister.
Debates of March 2nd, 1998
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I should remind the committee, I have not said $4,000 today was what was delivered to a community, but we could provide some level of detail, if this committee is interested, to Members, about how many cases are seen in communities. If it were, in fact $4,000 to calculate the number of cases seen in a year you could, remembering that we provide $50,000 plus the northern allowance, you could probably do a quick approximation of the numbers of people that you were seeing. Without having detailed information I would not want to make something up and try to tell the committee that is what it was because it might not be accurate.
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are the other smaller communities treated similarly, where they receive a certain amount and then, they are not expected to pay a full year's salary of $50,000 a year for someone to sit there and see maybe one person a week? Is that the way everybody is treated?
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, all communities are treated exactly the same.
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister indicate how some other communities handle this if they are not getting a full salary for a full-time person to do this?
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are a variety of approaches. In some communities the hamlet or band has combined the duties with the duties of another function that somebody performs, so that income support is delivered as just part of their job during the regular course of a month. There are a number of different alternatives. During the pilot projects we had a couple of housing authorities where we had staff at the housing authority, who would be designated to also provide income support. It is a very broad approach across the territories.
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know this is not the Minister's area, but are there social workers in all of the communities to handle the counselling and the other related duties that used to happen? When a person went to a social worker, you normally received income support as well as counselling. Are there other people in the communities to do this?
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not know the answer to that question. I would assume that the resources would not have changed significantly in the communities after Education, Culture and Employment took over income support.
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
One final question, Mr. Chairman. In the case of Fort McPherson then, who used to do the income support before this new initiative happened?
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It was delivered by the social worker as part of their job.
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you. I am sorry I said that was my final question. I have one more. Is the Minister aware of whether there is a social worker in the community of Fort McPherson to do counselling and other things that are not associated with income support at the present time?
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not aware of the answer to that question. We can certainly endeavour to find out and provide that information to Members of the committee as well.
Committee Motion 29-13(5): To Institute Compulsory Home Economics And Shop Programs In All High Schools
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Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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March 2nd, 1998
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move a motion. I move that this committee recommends that the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment review the Income Support Program and funds paid to communities to deliver the Income Support Program to ensure fairness and equity in the allocations to all NWT communities.
Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I understand your motion is being drafted and translated. Are there any further questions on this particular activity? If the committee would agree, I understand we have some lunch ready in the lounge. We could take a break and have the motion drawn up, drafted and translated while we are having our lunch break.
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