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Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do not have that level of detail with us, but we could certainly make it available to the Member.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Could the Minister just give an approximate figure, say $50,000, $1 million or $2 million?

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is probably in excess of $6 million that the two councils in Yellowknife will raise.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Mr. Chairman, is there some way Yellowknife could get more money for their education. For instance, if Arviat and Baker Lake get 100 percent for their education, is there some way that Yellowknife can get more money for their education?

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If the local councils wanted to give up the ability to collect taxes, we would have to provide funding for them as well, but that would mean there would be less funding for everybody, including the students in Yellowknife.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What is the reasoning for making the city of Yellowknife residents pay education taxes when Iqaluit, Rankin Inlet, Cambridge Bay or other larger centres like that do not have to pay education taxes?

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Devitt was just advising me that we have never been able to find anybody old enough to give us the answer to that question. It has been that way since as long as anybody can remember. I cannot tell you what the justification was for starting it in the first place. People are taxed typically on their ability to pay and I would suspect that years ago, the government saw that the residents of Yellowknife had an ability to pay taxes that were not found in other communities.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Considering the fact that there seems to be a few more people who are working these days in the various centres, particularly with all this construction happening in Iqaluit and what not, is it not about time that other areas had to pay a bit more for their education, in terms of education taxes, as well?

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All residents in the Northwest Territories or all property owners in the Northwest Territories are assessed. A portion of their taxes is attributed to education. The tax rates in the general taxation area are significantly lower than they are in the city of Yellowknife. I suspect years ago that might not have been quite as noticeable a situation as it is now. It would be an initiative of the Minister of Finance, if there were to be any consideration to raising taxes in the general taxation area.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of my constituents recently indicated he pays $1,000 a year for education taxes. Would the taxes that are collected, for example, from the community of Arviat, would they be as high as $1,000?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Erasmus, if you wish to pursue this line of questioning you might want to address your questions to the Minister of Finance. He is responsible for taxes, I believe. I will allow the Minister of Education to respond.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it would be highly unlikely that there would be a residence in Arviat that would be assessed $1,000 for the education portion of their taxes.

Committee Motion 30-13(5): To Review The Income Support Program To Ensure Fairness And Equity
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have no further questions except to indicate I think it is time that other areas contribute a little bit more toward their education rather than only the city of Yellowknife. Are not Fort Smith, Hay River and places like that? I would suggest it is time we started looking at other communities that could pay a few dollars toward education, as well, rather than penalizing residents for living in the city of Yellowknife. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. It was more a comment than it was a question. Are there any more on detail of funding allocated to education boards?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.