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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister had indicated the development or the Dene Kede curriculum had been developed up until grade six, I think he indicated? Could the Minister indicate if this is a compulsory curriculum that all schools across the western NWT have to use every day in school or how often?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dene Kede is a curriculum framework which allows an aboriginal language teacher to teach almost any subject in an aboriginal language. The teacher would still have to develop program materials for each individual class and for each part of instruction. It is an enabling tool. The first requirement is a teacher who can speak an aboriginal language in order to bring it to life.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If it is not compulsory then are we not ensuring there is any culture-based schooling in the schools? Is that what I am hearing?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Culture-based schooling is a philosophy of the department and one that we encourage all divisional education councils to follow. Using Dene Kede is not necessarily required in order to have a culture-based philosophy in schooling and making sure that is being followed. It is possible to relate almost any subject to a culture and would be expected in all of the divisional education councils.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In actuality, we are not ensuring that culture-based schooling occurs. There was a recent education conference here. Could the Minister indicate how many culture-based workshops were held there?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If the Member is referring to the Professional Development Conference that was run by the two Yellowknife School Divisions, I am not aware of what their program was at their conference.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I spoke to one person who had been there and was informed there was not any, although, I could be wrong. Similarly, there was about three years ago, a conference on Dene Kede. I believe it was right here in Yellowknife. There was not one teacher from the Yellowknife schools that attended. If we are leaving it up to individual schools in Yellowknife to participate in these types of things, Mr. Chairman, we are going to wait a long time. This culture-based education conference April 1st and 2nd, is it

compulsory for all the teachers in Yellowknife to go to those or a certain percentage at least?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have invited a whole range of people. The local education councils have been invited. People across the north, but no, we have no way of making it compulsory for teachers in the Yellowknife system.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I read in a couple of department's reports how important culture-based schooling is for the success of students. If there is something like 4,000 aboriginal people in Yellowknife and there is little if no mention of their culture in their schooling, then what we are doing, in my estimation, Mr. Chairman, is not living up to the act. The Minister indicated a few minutes ago that it is every student's right to receive a good education. Could the Minister indicate how he is going to ensure in the future that in Yellowknife schools there is actually true culture-based education, so that the children of all those aboriginal parents who are living in Yellowknife can also receive a good education that our Education Act gives them a right to?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This conference we are sponsoring on April 1st and 2nd is one step down the path to making sure everyone is aware of the importance of culture-based education.

Another thing which has to happen in Yellowknife is parents of aboriginal children have to get involved in local control of community schools. Whether that is through parent advisory committees or through running for election for the two education authorities in town, I think that is also an essential step in order to heighten sensitivity and awareness.

The challenge in Yellowknife is still going to be to find qualified teachers who are also qualified aboriginal language speakers when it comes to using the Dene Kede curriculum. I know I have seen a number of articles about local schools taking field trips to try and learn about aboriginal culture, bringing elders into the classrooms. I think that there are a number of initiatives that the schools take part in to heighten students' awareness of the aboriginal culture and I think that, in general, from the teachers I have met and talked to, that there is a very good awareness among the teaching staff in Yellowknife that culture-based education is absolutely essential for children to learn. It is not something that every teacher is aware of, but the department will continue to perform a role in increasing the awareness. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Activity summary, educational development. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In terms of collecting statistics and monitoring effectiveness of the schools, now that there is no longer matriculation in general, we just have one sort of graduation, do you have any idea or can you track who goes on to university? Do you just lump all the grade 12 graduates into one big pot regardless of whether they are going on through the university stream as opposed to maybe not? Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, historically, we never tracked whether students graduated with a general or an academic diploma. This has not been something that we could track in the past. The trend is to continue to track just graduation statistics. We get a fair indication of success rates by looking at the applications for students financial assistance. We can take from our applications how many people are going on because what they do is they tell us how many years of schooling they have had in the north in order to qualify for remission. We do get some of that information. I think we are going to be working at improving our computer systems so that we can better track students. Hopefully, track them close to graduation so that we get a better idea of who is dropping out and see if we can work on approaches to counter that as people get toward the senior level in the system. We are going to be improving our computer tracking method so that we can find out more about post secondary students.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I understand this correctly, the department does see a benefit to being able to track students to be able to, even for quality control, differentiate what kinds of graduates are coming out of the high school to have a sense of what is working and what is not working or do we have 90 percent that are just getting the old style general and cannot go anywhere. Do we have an idea or would it be a benefit to know how many can go on to higher education and become doctors and lawyers? How do we track that? Is there a benefit to doing that and not just, sort of the considerably less accurate way of after the fact, looking at who applies for student financial assistance?