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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the area of the colleges, in my opening comments I expressed my concern regarding the credit transfer agreements. The fact that it is not the agreement that I am concerned about, it is the fact that some students are not able to take advantage of those agreements at times when instructors do not finish all the necessary course work. As a result of that they cannot make their exams difficult enough so that the universities and colleges will accept the transfer. While I appreciate the Minister's willingness to look at the particular cases that I had brought up, that I know of, for those people it is too late, Mr. Chairman.

What I would like to do is to try and ensure that this does not occur any further. I would like the Minister and his staff to try to work with the colleges to ensure that this does not occur because those agreements are very delicate instruments, so to speak. Every time a person wants to transfer his credits from, for instance, Aurora College to the University of Lethbridge they have to show the documentation. You cannot just say I took this course, and I made 89 percent, and they will transfer your credits. It does not work like that. They have to look at that particular course, that year. Everything which was taught, they have to look at the exams that were written, how much you passed those exams by. If a particular instructor does not finish the course work for that particular year, it does not matter if you received 100 percent in every exam, you might not be able to transfer your credits. I am asking the Minister if he can look into this, wherever there are agreements like this to transfer credits, to work with the colleges to ensure the amount of course work that is required to ensure people can actually transfer their credits, that the course work is done and the proper types of exams are written, so people can put that forward when they are trying to transfer their courses. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I was interested in getting the details from the Member because this is something I had not heard from anybody else. I wanted to be able to check and see how much of a concern it might be across the system. I would expect that the college, and this is obviously an operational issue for the college, would be concerned as well if their clients, the students, are not able to transfer courses. The college puts a fair bit of effort into negotiating the transfer agreements and I would think, on that basis, they believe they can deliver the goods. If they have not, it is probably an indication of an instructor failing to do as was expected of them. I would expect it is something the college does not experience very often. If this is an issue of concern, I would be happy to bring it up with the college. As I said, I would still welcome information from the Member because I would like a concrete example to point to when I bring the issue up with the college. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will have to speak to the former students involved and ask them to discuss this or write a letter, something to that effect. However, I know this is not an isolated case because I have spoken to several students who are concerned with this, students who work hard and go to school regularly and the rest of this. I have heard several complaints that there are many students who may not be quite as serious about their studies and then, the course is watered down, so everybody can handle the course work. That is not the way it should happen, Mr. Chairman. If zero students pass, then it is too bad. We have to ensure that we have quality courses in our colleges. It is not how many people we can pass or how many people who can actually say, I have a certificate or diploma. It does not do them any good if they try to transfer to a university and they cannot transfer their credits, if they have to take another two years of college or university when they thought they would not have to. This is not an isolated incident I am talking about. I will undertake to speak to students I know of who could not transfer their courses, who were told that they would be able to.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. You made your point, but I will let the Minister respond.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Like the Member, I would be very concerned if people are not being able to transfer courses. I would be quite prepared to look into the issue and work with the college.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. I am on total operations and maintenance, $109.584 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Page 9-8, detail of capital, culture and careers, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $1.231 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Buildings and works, Fort Smith region, total region, $448,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Buildings and works, Inuvik region, total region, $559,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Buildings and works, Baffin region, total region, $340,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Buildings and works, Keewatin region, total region, $5,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Buildings and works, Kitikmeot, page 9-10 for total region $697,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Total buildings and works, $3.28 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Contributions, headquarters, total region, $2 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.