My understanding is that there was considerable discussion with the UNW that actually goes back to 1996 or 1997, both with the President, Ms. Jackie Simpson and some others, where they indicated that they were prepared to work with us on the Hay Plan Job Evaluation System which, by the way, we have used in the territories for close to 20 years in our management team and is used right across Canada in a variety of both municipal, provincial and private sector areas. I would not want to say unequivocally today that they put it in writing or did they say they agreed or disagreed whether it was gender neutral, et cetera. I do not think that would be fair to them until I double check with my staff. Certainly, there was a willingness, from what I have seen, in the notes and the discussion that we have undertaken, to work with us on the Hay Plan Job Evaluation System and was, up until sometime in late 1998, I think, when the PSAC people came into the picture. I believe I did indicate in my speech earlier today that the PSAC had said they were not prepared to negotiate this deal. In fairness to the UNW and to its leadership, I should check and see whether or not they have actually agreed or disagreed that the Hay Plan, which I believe and we believe, is gender neutral, but in fact they concurred with that. I would prefer to take it that way. Thank you.
John Todd on Question 496-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
In the Legislative Assembly on May 20th, 1998. See this statement in context.
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Question 496-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Item 6: Oral Questions
May 19th, 1998
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John Todd Keewatin Central
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