This is page numbers 1457 - 1478 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

Return To Question 574-13(5): Funding For Isuma Production Company
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be pleased to talk to the Minister of Education, who is in charge of that, to meet with the Member on Monday and to get all the facts and will be pleased, as a government, to try to assist where we can. We will do that on Monday, as soon as we can arrange a meeting. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Evaloarjuk.

Supplementary To Question 574-13(5): Funding For Isuma Production Company
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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to my question. Could the Premier commit to find funding in his department to provide for the making of this Inuit film? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

Supplementary To Question 574-13(5): Funding For Isuma Production Company
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 574-13(5): Funding For Isuma Production Company
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Department of the Executive, we do not have funding for such a thing as making films. I will raise the issue with the Minister responsible. The Minister responsible will meet with the Member on Monday, if it is possible and if the Member has time, to get all the facts. Then we will consider it, just like the rest of the requests that are brought forward. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 575-13(5): Resolution Of Nwtpc Continuation Issues
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister responsible for Division, in regard to the Power Corporation. He earlier made a comment and a suggestion that the rhetoric on this issue be toned down and it is a good suggestion. I hope my colleagues from Iqaluit and Kivallivik take it to heart because their kinds of inflammatory comments add nothing to the measured, tempered debate, we need to resolve this issue.

My question to the Minister is in regard to the issue of the facilitator that he indicated has been hired. Could he indicate the duties of this facilitator? Is it to meditate as well as analyze?

Question 575-13(5): Resolution Of Nwtpc Continuation Issues
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Minister responsible for Division Secretariat, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have hired the mediator or facilitator, if you want, in an effort to get all parties back to the table to reach an appropriate compromise, as I said earlier. Optimistically we hope that common sense will prevail and the interests of territorial residents will be of paramount importance, in whatever decisions we make. I can say and the Minister has talked about it, Mr. Dent, consistently that there is a cost attached to the dividing up of the NWT Power Corporation. It will affect us all. I think it is very important that be said publicly. My understanding, if my memory serves me correctly, as I always like to qualify my statements, as my friend, Mr. Picco does, is it could be as much as 9 percent in the eastern Arctic and 5 percent in the west. As long as everybody understands the ramifications and the long-term costs associated with the dividing of the Power Corporation, the position of this government has been consistent, that we should remain as one at this time. We should find the appropriate compromise that satisfies people in terms of its corporate modus operandi, how its board of directors will operate, et cetera. The implications are significant if we cannot reach a compromise and an arrangement that will satisfy everybody in terms of the overall costs to the people we represent and the people out there in the Arctic, east or west. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 575-13(5): Resolution Of Nwtpc Continuation Issues
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My supplementary question to the Minister, in response to his comments, is that very clearly there is a cost to every decision we make, be it to divide or be it to stay together. My understanding that one of the reasons for the hiring of this facilitator was to, in fact, review and analysis the data because

there were questions from parties at the table as to its relevance and veracity. There was a question as whether was it accurate, the figures like the Minister just quoted in this House. Would that be one of the jobs this facilitator will do as well, is to look at the facts and assure everybody, in fact, they are accurate and say what they mean? Mr. Todd.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well, as my colleague knows, the negotiations, if you want and the overall political responsibility is Mr. Dent's, who is not here today. I have the overall responsibility of trying to coordinate all the activities in division. My understanding, from discussions with my honourable colleague, is that he stands by those figures where he is saying that there is going to be an additional cost attached to the division of the NWT Power Corporation. He will be back on Monday and I am sure if you ask him, he will be able to confirm that. My understanding of the facilitator is to try to come to some arrangement with the parties and put all the facts on the table as my colleague says. I am not sure whether he is going to examine them to verify whether they are correct or not. I would have to check with Mr. Dent. My overall understanding is that should we decide or should it come to pass that there is a desire to divide the Power Corporation into two entities, there is a fiscal cost attached to it that I am told will be a 9 percent increase in the power rates in the eastern Arctic and 5 percent increase in the western Arctic. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very clearly that kind of cost, as I brought up in the House, in my opinion, could be absorbed in the west by a well-thought out reorganization plan, however, that is not the point of the questions today. My question to the Minister would be then, could he indicate who, in fact, this facilitator is? Is it somebody with a background in this area who has credible credentials to do this kind of work? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 575-13(5): Resolution Of Nwtpc Continuation Issues
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

When I read the briefing note earlier last week, I believe there were two well-qualified facilitators who were knowledgable in this whole field. One was a former Deputy Minister of DIAND, Mr. Arthur Kroeger. I think. The other one was this firm out of Toronto and I must apologize to my colleague that I do not have the name before me today. Both these organizations have impeccable credentials when it comes to the kind of facilitating in this complicated question of the NWT Power Corporation. We are optimistic, as we always have to be in this game that we will come to the appropriate compromise that is necessary. I keep repeating myself, to ensure that ultimately whatever decision we make is in the best interests of people from Pond Inlet to Tuktoyaktuk. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very clearly, we are all interested in reaching that point where we have a satisfactory compromise and resolution to this issue. As well, I, of course, applaud the Minister, Mr. Dent, for standing by his figures. Unfortunately, there are the questions coming from other quarters that he has to address. Could the Minister assure us that the findings and work of this facilitator will be brought forward so that all Members are aware of what is happening and also that it is in a very straightforward, clear language so there is no misunderstanding, no needless rhetoric and baffle gab to confuse the less fortunate with limited powers of understanding on some of these issues? Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could not agree more with my honourable colleague. The last thing I would want is politicians negotiating this arrangement, particularly, when you consider the discussion that goes on here on a frequent basis. There is a concerted effort on the part of the Minister and certainly on the part of myself and Mr. Arlooktoo, who are the three Ministers responsible for Division, to reach the right compromise. You know, you have to make decisions based upon the information that is placed before you and you have to believe that the kinds of people you recruit have the capability to be able to give you sound reasons for you to make wise choices. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Erasmus.

Question 576-13(5): Telecommunication Assistance Fund
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Telecommunications. Earlier today I made a statement concerning the CRTC hearings in regard to opening the NWT for competition in the area of long distance phone calls. Yesterday, the Minister had indicated that the GNWT supported the establishment of a national fund to subsidize high-cost service areas. I wonder if the Minister could indicate why the GNWT supports the establishment of this national fund?

Question 576-13(5): Telecommunication Assistance Fund
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,

the CRTC decided to go for long distance competition and, in preparation for that, the GNWT supported this initiative providing that there is some form of subsidization for the high-cost service areas. The reason being, if other telephone providers, such as AT & T and Sprint, like the honourable Member mentioned in his statement, move into this area, they are business people and they will be going for the high profit areas which are the major centres. We anticipate that the smaller communities may be left out of that arrangement and the cost of providing services in these communities is very high. Currently, NorthwesTel is able to provide the long distance service as well the local service and a form of subsidy is in place. If that is lost, then the small local services will have a very high cost. To try to alleviate that problem and try to continue the services in the communities, this government supported the idea of establishing a fund. This fund would most likely come from long distance revenues from the phone companies in the north as well as in the south.