Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my understanding of the act that this comes under is, once NAV Canada gets a proposal together, they have gone through a consultation process and the board had a meeting and as of August 18th, they delivered a proposal to the Honourable David Collenette, the Minister of Transportation. According to the act, he has 30 days from that date to reject, amend or accept the Phase II proposal. Thank you.
Debates of Sept. 16th, 1998
This is page numbers 35 - 56 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was pay.
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Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.
Supplementary To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Minister Collenette has 30 days which ends tomorrow. If he does not make any changes, can we still try to lobby NAV Canada to make changes on their own? Does the act allow NAV Canada to make changes to reduce our fees within a set period of time or can they do it anytime? How does that work?
Supplementary To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Antoine.
Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my understanding of the act is that once the federal Minister approved this proposal there is nothing that we could do legally or financially to change this proposal. Then it is up to NAV Canada to either raise the fees or lower the fees. That is my understanding of how this act works. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.
Supplementary To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
September 15th, 1998
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister clarify, is he saying that NAV Canada can still lower their rates on their own after this 30-day period. Does the act allow that?
Supplementary To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Antoine.
Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again my understanding of the act is that Mr. Collenette, once he makes a decision on this fee proposal, it is a final decision and there is nothing in the act that we could return to the fee structure. My understanding is that it will be up to NAV Canada then with this fee structure proposal that has been approved or disapproved and we are assuming here that it will get approved tomorrow. If it does the way it is presented, then NAV Canada will use that fee structure to operate. I am not too familiar with whether they have the opportunity to lower it or not, but that fee structure is in place and that is what they will work with. Perhaps what I should say here is, not being totally familiar as to whether they could lower it or raise it. I will have to check that out and get back to the Member. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Question 22-13(6): Nav Canada Service Charges
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is addressed to the Minister responsible for NTPC. Earlier in the House the Minister of Finance indicated that Cabinet and the Minister were interested in a transition arrangement with NTPC that would allow for an orderly move to division similar to the WCB. That has come to be known as plan B. Plan A being the initial position put on the table by the Minister responsible for NTPC where he indicated Plan A is, we would like to keep one Corporation. I think that the move to plan B is a wise one. I just asked the Minister if he could elaborate on that particular shift in light of the delicate nature of the negotiations as the Minister of Finance indicated earlier. Thank you.
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister Responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent.
Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, as my honourable colleague, Mr. Todd said earlier, negotiations are at a delicate stage on the future of the Power Corporation. The government's position remains that we would prefer to see the Power Corporation as one entity following division. Given the status of negotiations and the timetable we have before division takes place, we felt that it was prudent to begin the work of preparing a document that could be considered a transition document, should we prove to be unsuccessful at advancing the Power Corporation as one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, of course, fully support the idea of a very careful even-handed move toward division and the reality that there is a possible need for that kind of transition arrangement similar to WCB. Could the Minister, in fact, confirm whether his transition document will, in fact, be similar somewhat to WCB where you will have a split but the opportunity will be left wide open for the two new Legislatures to, in fact, to possibly have a merger or to carry on with a more formal separation? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent
Further Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is too early in the negotiation process to answer that question. I would hope the parties will agree that we could leave the transition document open enough so that such an action could be contemplated, should we get to that point. I want to reinforce that we are still hoping we will be successful at achieving consensus on a process that will keep the Power Corporation together after division. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister at least indicate whether in fact the transition document in his mind, would be either a transition document keeping the corporation whole or a transition document looking to some sort of division with a possible re-connection later by the two new Assemblies should that be the wish of the people of Nunavut and the Northwest Territories? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent.
Further Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to state and restate that there has not been any discussions with the stakeholders east and west. Early thinking sees the document leading to an orderly division of the company over the course of two or so years. During that time, obviously, if two new Legislatures were to choose to change the approach, they could do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Question 23-13(6): Nwtpc Division Transition Options
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.
Question 24-13(6): Mediation Of The Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to readdress some questions again to Minister Todd regarding the collective agreement. Specifically, with regard to the process if the government is successful in its Court application to have a mediator appointed. Can the Minister tell us, will the mediator deal strictly with the collective agreement or will the mediator deal with both, the collective agreement and the pay equity dispute?
Question 24-13(6): Mediation Of The Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. That is a hypothetical question. Would you like to rephrase your question, Mr. Ootes?
Question 24-13(6): Mediation Of The Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
When the government has the mediator appointed, can the Minister tell us, will the mediator deal with the question of the collective agreement in isolation, or will it be both, the collective agreement and the pay equity dispute?