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Supplementary To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I was not talking about economic development officers, I was talking about a particular sector of the economy which I feel is very crucial to the development of the riding I represent with the downturn of the oil and gas industry. We have to find alternative ways of trying to stimulate the economy and generate jobs. I am talking in general, the tourism development officer position in Inuvik, and tourism in general.

This summer was probably one of the better summer seasons we had for tourists travelling up the Dempster Highway from the States and also from southern Canada. I think it is critical that we have people in place in all the regions, not just in the riding I represent, to ensure that sector of the economy is enhanced. We talk about stimulating the economy, but it seems like this particular area is crucial, especially for the riding I represent where there is no real economic value and we have one individual, but for that one individual to do an adequate job, we are sharing her with the 13 communities of the Nunakput riding, Mackenzie Delta and the Sahtu.

We are talking about all this money we are spending on a highway strategy, we are talking about this economic strategy where we are spending a lot of dollars there, but I think it is these type of issues that we have to concentrate on developing now. I would like to ask the Minister if he might consider his department to seriously look at this matter and put some serious consideration into promoting this particular tourism development officer positions in all ridings, not have one person taking care of three ridings. It just does not make economic sense, and it is not fair to the person doing the job.

Supplementary To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Member for the question. For the last couple of years we have been funding the NWT Tourism Association, an organization that is mandated to represent the operators and business sector of tourism, working in partnership with our department to advise the government and to take a direction on its own on where to take us in regard to promoting and developing the tourism sector of our economy. I had a meeting just last week with the board members of the tourism board and I have indicated that it is now time for them to start articulating what it is they want done. What type of resources are required for the strategy or plan they may wish to propose to me as a Minister?

I have indicated to them that Members of the Legislature and community leaders are all interested in seeing what it is we want to propose as a tourism strategy and we require them to make some suggestion on what it is we should be doing and what type of resources are going to be required. To go further, suggest how these resources should be best allocated. What should be done at the territorial level? What should be done at the regional and community level?

Hopefully within the next two or three months, we will have a strategy and a plan that we can share with the Members, that will lead to perhaps looking at additional dollars if it comes through the federal new economic development agreement, if we reach that and we propose a new program to them on how we would use resources like that to promote and develop the tourism sector of our economy. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know which other way to put this, but I asked the Minister if it is possible that the individual, since we cannot seem to get any more positions allocated, be allocated to each community in each of the three ridings who will serve in those communities for a particular period of time. Say three or four months, in the Mackenzie Delta riding, three or four months in the Nunakput riding and three or four months in the Sahtu riding, so we all distribute the person, so she can get a feel for what tourism development is really all about in our communities, where the individual does not just fly in one day and fly out the next day.

To do an adequate job, you have to have people on the ground, working with the tourism sector in each of the communities, so they get a feel of what each of the individual business people are doing in the tourism industry. I do not think we are serving justice to this individual and we are not serving justice to the people that we represent. I would like to ask the Minister if he has seriously considered that we expand these positions to allow more involvement in the communities and that the people spend more time in those communities to ensure their activities are being considered and seriously developed so every community and all the regions have a product that is sellable and marketable so we can get as much mileage out of these proposals when they come forth from the communities? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Revert To Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would

be prepared to consider the suggestion made by the honourable Member. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
Question 81-13(6): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Development Officer
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is addressed to the Minister of Transportation. It is in regard to the issue I raised in my Member's statement and that is the need for a comprehensive, longer term strategy to deal with chip sealing, which will free up operations and maintenance money that can be used on other, more pressing needs up the valley. I wonder if the Minister can indicate his thoughts on that and his plans on trying to deal with that issue? Thank you.

Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, certainly the objective of this department's very long range plan is to eventually do something more with the existing highway system that we have, to try to get it into better shape. The long- term plan is for doing reconstruction of the highway systems and eventually putting some hardtop and chip sealing and maybe even paving. We are doing this work between Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife as a highway strategy. That is where our efforts are, into upgrading the highway system there, straighten it out and eventually paving it all the way to Yellowknife. That is a very long range plan, like 10 to 12 years.

On the other parts of the highway, like the honourable Member's constituency, Thebacha, Highway 5 runs over there and I believe he mentioned there are some paved roads there. I think 122 kilometres of road in that area is paved. When I say paved, I mean that 40 kilometres is pavement. About 80 or so kilometres is chip seal. There is a remaining 140 or 144 kilometres of highway on that road that is gravel surface and is treated dust control. Towards the junction of Highway 3 and Highway 1, towards Simpson, there is a substantial amount of highway there that is still gravel. Highway 7 down from Highway 1, from the BC border up to Highway 1 is another section that is gravel. Up in the Dempster, we have gravel sections. We have a lot of areas in the north where there are gravel sections that should be looked at. The department is looking at a long range plan on this, and it does not fall currently within this coming five year capital plan. Thank you.

Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister aware of the significant yearly savings that could be accrued by, in fact, making that part of the initial investment at the front end, as we have heard the phrase used, so we would get a savings at the back end? Would you free up a considerable amount of operations and maintenance money, to deal with some of the projects the Minister has listed? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes there is a savings in the operations and maintenance side if we do chip seal the highway system. Chip sealing the highway system is a substantial capital investment. This is reconstruction of the existing highway system and getting it chip sealed. I just wanted to maybe add, usually the chip sealing is the latter part of the reconstruction of the highway, so there is a substantial up front cost to chip sealing a highway system. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my supplementary to the Minister is in regard to the condition of the roads in the part of the constituencies we are talking about, in the South Slave and in his constituency. In fact, the road bed itself is in fairly good shape and based on that consideration, the reality is you could chip seal small portions on a yearly basis, over the long-term and not incur a huge up front, one time initial capital investment. You would also start to realize savings on the operations and maintenance side, that would help offset that program. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the existing highway system on Highway 5, Highway 1 into Fort Simpson, I am told by the department, is constructed in a very sound manner. The manner in which the base is very solid and I have also been told by certain engineers that not very much would be required to get the surface into good enough condition so we could chip seal certain areas, if we maintained the existing width. As you know, the highway system between Edzo and the border, when it was reconstructed, they added some more width to the road, therefore, it required more culvert work and so forth. I am told in certain sectors that if we just keep the width of the road and chip seal it with some minimum amount of work to get it in shape to chip seal, I think it could work and I think it would not require that much capital to get it to that state. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

You have indicated in this House, as the Minister of Transportation as well as the Minister of Finance, that there is a transportation strategy underway, which is going to be a critical component of the broader economic strategy. It is going to be critical for any kind of roads to resources. Keeping in mind that in fact, transportation like every other government department, had to anti up and pay their share for the deficit reduction. Should there, as a result of the new economic strategy in the west, after division, should in fact there be money allocated or new money put into transportation? Would the Minister be able to commit to re-looking at these priorities, should those funds be made available for these very key sectors? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Minister of Transportation, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the economic strategy, which the transportation strategy is a component of, is in the early stages of being developed. Once we get more data, more information together, we would have an indication where to go with this. Development of our infrastructure to eventually have development of the economy is key in the overall big picture. Certainly that has to be taken into consideration. I cannot commit right now to say yes, we will pour every single dollar we find into this process to transportation, but certainly it will be a big factor. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
Question 82-13(6): Chip Sealing Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Than you. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Henry.

Question 83-13(6): Direct Deposit To Northern Business
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for Department of Finance, Mr. Todd. Yesterday, I made a statement in this House regarding the need to implement an electronic payment system of direct deposits for northern businesses that are providing services to this government. I had hoped to ask my questions yesterday regarding this issue, but we ran out of time, Mr. Speaker. This government is trying to foster, and it is a priority, to develop northern businesses by supplying grants and loans. It seems to me that the minor expense in creating and producing a system that would accommodate direct deposits to businesses providing service to the government, would add to this. On April 1, 1999 many small northern businesses may experience a period of confusion as to where their invoices or where their payments may be received. The direct deposit system could link the two new governments and the businesses that are providing services to them. By adopting an efficient direct deposit system, we would not only benefit northern businesses, but we would also facilitate the transition between businesses and the two new governments.

The question to the Minister of Finance is, some departments are presently using a direct deposit system for services they are purchasing from the private sector. I would hope the Minister of Finance would agree a direct deposit system of payment would be beneficial to northern businesses. I would like to ask the Minister if he would be prepared to pursue this implementation as soon as possible, certainly prior to division? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.