This is page numbers 211 - 240 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was business.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I have said, I am prepared to provide the information that the Members have requested for those companies that have supplied us with waivers. Some companies have expressed concern that information might be released without their permission. It is important to remember that there is no government money here. It is a bank. All of the seed money that the government had put in has come back from the proceeds. The fund pays for its own administration. This is private investors putting money in and it is being invested in northern businesses. If it is important for Members to know the details of who received the money, any investors who we have signed waivers is information I can make available.

I am trying to make the point that we will have difficulty placing all of the monies, simply because we do not offer any benefit over going to a bank. There is no improvement of the interest rate. The program itself has to be self-financing. The administration costs are coming back out, just like they would from a bank. It is a situation where these monies are available for investing in the north by companies that have good solid business plans. It is not going to risky companies. The underwriting company has insisted that there be solid blue chip business plans and that the funds are fairly well guaranteed. It is a difficult sell when you have no advantage over the banks and you then have to know that if you went to a bank no one would know how much you borrowed. However, if you utilize this fund there are going to be questions as to the amount that you received. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have questions on the Aurora Fund also. It is more from a liability prospective. I believe, certainly the previous Minister has spoken and related to this government, that there is no further financial liability on this government in the event that the Aurora Fund at some time could sustain financial losses. My question to the Minister is, is he aware of any other Canadian jurisdictions who have initiated similar funds to the Aurora fund that have had to settle liability issues because of losses that the particular fund incurred, and there was perception that the particular governments were so close that there was a reasonable expectation on the investor that the money was secure? Could the Minister respond if he knows of any other Canadian jurisdictions that have had to incur financial liability because of similar funds that have sustained losses? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, federal regulations prohibit governments from guaranteeing the loans in these funds. To the best of our knowledge, there is no other jurisdiction that has contravened that federal regulation.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand that this

board is composed completely of government individuals on the Aurora Fund, and I wonder if the Minister could confirm that or expand on that?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Of the eight members on the board, there are five who are with the government, three are employees, two are Ministers, myself and Minister Kakfwi. The other three directors are southern appointments, all of whom have banking backgrounds. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister tell us, is there a process by which one of the members or workers can declare a conflict of interest should that arise?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes it would be expected that if there was a conflict that somebody would declare that.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

I believe that Mr. Voytilla is the president or the Chairman of the Aurora Fund. Could the Minister tell us if anyone has ever declared a conflict?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am advised by Mr. Voytilla that he does not recall anyone declaring a conflict of interest. I would like to expand a bit on my previous answer. The conflict rules are fairly stringent and are set out to comply with securities restrictions.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To the best of the Minister's knowledge and the best of Mr. Voytilla's knowledge, no one on the board or their workers have ever declared a conflict?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have already answered that question in the negative.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are minutes of the meetings kept, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Minister.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Yes, Mr. Chairman.