This is page numbers 579 - 604 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairperson.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. This $3.8 million, is that all for the equal pay tribunal costs, legal costs, that type of thing, and is that for the whole year, this coming year?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The $3 million we are talking about is for equal pay, and $820,000 is for the People Self Project cost overruns. Of the $3 million, $2.2 million is directly for the equal pay complaint, $750,000 is for the appeals process for our new job evaluation system.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

So $2.2 million is for the legal costs and the associated costs such as travelling to and from Ottawa?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. That is correct, $2.2 million.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

And that is for this coming year that we will need this? Is that the case?

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. That is correct. That will cover equipment and supplies, travel and accommodation, contracts, research, staff costs.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

How much of that is estimated for the travelling to and from Ottawa and associated costs like accommodations over there, that type of thing?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

We have an additional $150,000 that we have to spend because we are doing this in Ottawa, the majority of the hearings in Ottawa. Can we assume there would be an equal amount for each of the years that this is going to be taking?

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would agree that the large majority, almost all of the travel and accommodation costs are a result of holding the hearing in Ottawa. There will be some other costs that will be somewhat higher for us because of the hearings being in Ottawa, and yes, this amount is what we would expect for each year the process is continued.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Is there any possibility that perhaps this decision may be reversed, that we do not have to have all these hearings in Ottawa? I know that we passed a motion the other day trying to get more money for education, and we can certainly use that $150,000, if not for special needs, then perhaps for the school in N'dilo or some other such worthy cause.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would welcome it if the union were to agree to come back to the table and negotiate this with the government. That would be one way to end the complaint. As I said, when I discussed my disappointment with the tribunal's decision to hold the hearings in Ottawa, we are considering whether or not to request a judicial review of that decision. We do, right now, have three cases before the courts relating to this complaint. If we are successful in any one of those three cases, it may significantly change the whole process. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Erasmus.