This is page numbers 721 - 753 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Motion 44-13(7): Termination Of Planning For New Yellowknife Correctional Centre
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Morin.

Motion 44-13(7): Termination Of Planning For New Yellowknife Correctional Centre
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

July 30th, 1999

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Who in the architectural firm has experience and background in rehabilitation programs for youth and adults and considers that the majority of them, 90 percent, are aboriginal inmates and that this would be best for the inmates?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would expect that would be the people in Justice, so maybe I could refer to the Minister of Justice to respond.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chairperson, the adult facility that we provide is designed to meet with the requirements of legislation, the same as the young offenders facility and the architects that we work with have sufficient expertise to cost out how much it would cost us to build facilities based on how many inmates we propose to take care of so we work with our officials and DPW and architects. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madame Chairperson. So this decision that the government has made, and you have heard it many, many times in this House, decisions made on the advice they receive. So they have received advice from the architectural firm, from DPW, from construction architects in DPW, those types of people. They have received advice from the Justice department and the bureaucracy itself. Was there any advice received at all from caregivers or program delivery people or people that are involved in rehabilitation of inmates or youths, people who are involved in young offenders programs, people that are involved in developing specific institutions or specific rehabilitation centres in southern Canada or anywhere else in Canada that are specific to aboriginal people by taking

into account the culture of aboriginal people and rehabilitation. Anything like that? Where does that fit into the mix? Where in his consultation did that fit in the Minister's consultation process?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. I will refer that question to Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madame Chairperson. The time to have considered these types of questions was a year and a half ago when there was a lot of time to be creative, innovative and open to locating these facilities and to look at every possible design. That time is long gone. We have very little time left to meet the requirements of the inmates and the young offenders. The decisions have been made and it is unfortunate that early on in the spring and summer of 1998, government did not consult the way we are being told it should have been consulting, but the opportunity is long gone and it is time now to move on, get on to designing these. As I said, if this Member wants to help us be creative and involve every possible person in the design of these facilities I am open to it. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Morin, that ten minutes is up. I had two people on my list when we took the break. Mr. Erasmus and Mr. Krutko, I believe. I do not remember which order they were in so, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madame Chairperson. We are hearing now that these two groups of people who would be served with these facilities may not actually be in a building that is attached, but that is not what we heard earlier. If I remember correctly, it was to be in a building with the youth basically in a separate wing. I would like some clarification on that, please.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Chairperson, perhaps the Member could shorten his questions to get it clear.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Erasmus.