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Supplementary To Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I do have a copy of the letter that was sent to Mr. Andrew Butler. In one sentence he says: "In addition, it is essential to confirm the financial implications that the establishment of a new divisional education council would have with respect to both education programming and administrative costs." Mr. Speaker, the department has been aware of this petition-application for some three years now. Do I take it that the department has not even looked at the financial implications that this would have now and are just about to start now? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are other implications beyond the financial implication, Mr. Speaker, and that is how it will affect the district education council as it is left, in the event that a separate council is established for Hay River. It does affect other communities. For that reason, we do need to consult, for example with the Hay River Reserve. The documentation was silent on their wishes. Also, Enterprise and how it will affect the district education council staffing and so forth that is in place at the moment. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Question 209-14(3): Funding For South Slave Divisional Education Council
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

November 5th, 2000

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister responsible for Transportation. Mr. Speaker, I received a response to my letter in the area of ice-spraying at the Peel and Mackenzie River crossings. The Minister responded to me stating that the cost has not been included in the department's transportation budget for the Inuvik region in the area of $50,000, and went on to explain the differences between the crossing at Fort Providence and the ones up the Mackenzie River at Tsiigehtchic.

My question to the Minister is, what is the cost for extending the ferry operation at Fort Providence? That is the only place in the Territory where it is done when ice starts forming. I know in the Inuvik region, as soon as the ice starts forming, they pull the ferry out and then the prices in the stores in the communities in the region increase as a result. What is the cost difference? Since the Minister makes a direct correlation between the Merv Hardy ferry remaining in service until full capacity of that ice crossing is in place, and it not being so in Inuvik, so what is the cost difference in keeping that ferry in service until the ice crossing is built up? Thank you.

Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Steen.

Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if I understand the question correctly, the Member wants to know what the overall costs for the Fort Providence ferry are after the date of freeze-up. I do not have that offhand, but I can get the information for the Member.

Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am more interested in not after the date of freeze-up, but as they continue to operate as they are building that ice bridge up. Again, there is a direct comparison of $50,000 being saved, or the cost of that not being. In Inuvik, we are not able to use this ice-spraying method because it costs $50,000 more. However, our ferry is out, so the costs go up. To be specific, what is the cost as soon as the ice starts to run in the Mackenzie until the ferry is pulled out? Can you supply that information? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe I understand the Member's question to mean what are the day-to-day operation costs of the ferry. It would depend, of course, on the amount of time it ran after the ice started forming. I am sure the Member is aware of that. However, the purpose of the reference to $50,000 in his letter that I signed off to him is just to show that it would be in the nature of $50,000 to use ice spray on the Mackenzie crossing at Arctic Red.

We put in the letter the indication, for instance, as in Fort Providence, that would be offset. In this particular case, it is not offset because the ferry does not keep running there. It is an outright cost to the department of $50,000 more if we wanted to ice-spray that crossing. That is the only reason we compared the two.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That goes to where I raised the question initially. Inuvik, in that region, why could we not have the ferry running until the ice road is built up? Then we could compare costs. We cannot compare costs right now. I am interested in what it costs as the ice starts forming at the Providence crossing. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is true. We are not suggesting that this is a $50,000 saving here. It would have been an offset cost if in fact the ferry was still running, but it is not running. It is shut down. In order for us to bring in the equipment and have an ice ferry done at that particular place would cost the department $50,000 with no way to offset that.

In the letter, we suggested that if the oil and gas industry, who are the main beneficiaries here, were in favour of sharing this cost with us or coming forward with an offer to cover this cost, we would definitely take that into consideration. At this point in time, we have no offer from industry to cover this cost.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Final supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since the Minister refers to getting proposals from the oil and gas industry and saying they are beneficiaries, all residents of the region would be beneficiaries. As soon as the costs go up in Inuvik, they spread out to the communities. That is a transportation point to the rest of the communities in the Delta.

The Minister is saying that they cannot do it this year, but I would like to know what the cost is per day of operation once the ice starts to form, and maybe at that point look at why we cannot get Inuvik's ferry running longer than the cut-off date.

Supplementary To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the cut-off date of the ferry in Arctic Red is not subject to any specific day on the calendar. We run that ferry as long as we can, subject to ice conditions. When we no longer can go back and forth on the river safely, then we shut down the ferry. From there on, we build up the ice as quickly as possible. I think that the Member's suggestion that we may be able to operate the ferry in some form at the same time that we build an ice bridge, might be very expensive, because it is very expensive in Providence. I do not have the exact figures, but I can come to the Member with the figures. It is definitely quite expensive and it is a lot more than $50,000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Question 210-14(3): Peel And Mackenzie River Crossings
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have heard the Premier and the Minister of Finance talk about the potential for the Northwest Territories to become a "have" Territory. While we are waiting for that to happen, we have to have proper development so that it will take place. I am concerned that because of a lack of support the Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board could cause a delay in approvals for projects.

Mr. Speaker, current levels of funding will not allow the group to look at three or four major projects a year. Without additional funding, program delivery will most likely be limited. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development pressure DIAND to increase the funding so that this board can be adequately supported?

Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned the other day, we do view this as being a critical piece of what has to be streamlined in order to attract industry to build a pipeline down the valley. As recently as September 27th, I discussed this matter with the Minister of DIAND. He confirmed to me that he was looking into what resources and what full time equivalents or people they would be needing in order to make this board as effective as necessary. I will continue that effort. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Supplementary To Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Question 211-14(3): Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, developers are often unclear as to what the process is, and because the Environmental Impact Review Board is a new process, it is not particularly clear how everything works. The Department of Indian and Northern Affairs could develop regulations that would help everybody understand how things are supposed to work. So far, they have failed to do so. Will the Minister commit to demanding that the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs get to work and develop those regulations?