In the Legislative Assembly on February 28th, 2000. See this topic in context.

Question 63-14(2): Addictions Treatment In The Northwest Territories
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 27th, 2000

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services. I would like to thank her for opening the forum report and reading the mandate and letting us know that possibly no new money was being considered.

One of the recommendations in the report is that we increase spending on addictions treatment, and this seems to be in direct contradiction to what she had stated. I would argue that if she is not prepared to lobby for new money for health and social services, she essentially will be dusting furniture in Pompeii.

If this government continually makes addictions treatment a priority but turns around and shuts treatment centres in Inuvik and shuts treatment centres in Yellowknife, I am concerned. I wonder if the Minister can give us the status of addictions treatment in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Member's preface, just because no more money would be under the mandate of this report, that no more money would be added to Department of Health and Social Services does not necessarily translate to the fact that no new money would be spent on addictions services. There is certainly room for the potential of reprofiling or reallocating funds within existing budgets, and I think that is something that we should keep in mind.

Mr. Speaker, at the present time in the Northwest Territories, there are various programs and services available relating to addictions services. For example, the Nats' Ejee K'eh facility on the Hay River Reserve is a 30-bed residential treatment facility for addictions. It is a 35-day alcohol and drug program consisting of Dene culture, lecture, the AA 12-step program, and one-on-one counselling.

Mr. Speaker, there are also two treatment centres for youth, which deal with addictions in the Northwest Territories. One is the eight-bed Trailcross facility in Fort Smith, and the other is the eight-bed Territorial Treatment Centre here in Yellowknife. In addition to this, there are also 40 beds available for inmates who are on their way back to their communities. At the Salvation Army here in Yellowknife, they receive counselling on addictions on their way back to their communities through the Early Release Program.

There are also programs within the correction facilities that offer addictions counselling to inmates while they are incarcerated. As we have talked about in this House, there certainly are also referrals to other institutions in the south where specialized treatment is required. Mr. Speaker, I do not represent this little overview to be the entire comprehensive explanation of all services that are available, but hopefully this would give the Member somewhat of an indication of what is available at the present time. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that the Minister suggests that we are going to reprofile budgets, but I do not think the kind of money that we need is going to be found within the current budget. I mean, I think that with reprofiling, there are some possibilities there, but it is almost sketchy at best. I am wondering if the Minister might tell us where she is intending to take the money from? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, during this sitting of the Legislature, the repeated message for many of the MLAs has been that we must deal with addictions. Mr. Speaker, I believe that I can say, as the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, that this is a problem that not only has a very high human cost, it also has a large cost in terms of government dollars.

Mr. Speaker, the question of where funding would be taken from to reprofile for addictions I think, at this point, may be somewhat premature. We need to sit down with Members and other people in the communities and look at the different things that could be put in place that have to do with addictions.

Mr. Speaker, I think Members would agree with me that programs need to be delivered in a way that deals with the root causes of much of the pain in the North that causes addictions in the first place. Models of addiction treatment that treat addiction as a symptom of underlying issues must begin to surface here in the North. Because I do not think that any amount of money could solve the addictions problems in the Northwest Territories.

I think it is going to take an effort on the part of this government and other community and aboriginal leaders, to recognize the magnitude of the problem, then begin to look at ways we might address it. The addictions issue is usually a manifestation of underlying causes. When you identify the underlying causes and people are ready to start talking about them and dealing with them, I think we will have something to begin with. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I agree with the Minister. I do not think any amount of money could entirely fix our problem. I think it is about life choices. The Minister mentioned she thought it a little premature to start making some decisions on where this money might come from. She suggested we might have to go out and do some research on the matter. I am wondering if the Minister can tell us if she is proposing to study or do a study on where money might come from? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not believe that any more formal studies into the issue are required. I think we already have much of the information we need to start addressing this problem. It is a matter of looking at what has worked in the past. I think I would be correct in saying that many Northerners have been treated for addictions and have had a relapse.

We need to look at the effectiveness of the programs. Are we spending money on treatment, then when the resident returns to the communities, and there is no community support or network there for them, they fall back into the same pattern. We need to look at all of those issues and spend our money in the most effective way possible to see results. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Final supplementary, Mr. Bell. Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.