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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not have the previous main estimates document in front of me, so I do not recall what was stated in there. But there certainly was money in last year's budget for the Laing building. In fact, there has been for a couple of years now. Because the debate has gone on for so long, it was not being spent and continued to be passed on through the carry-over process into the subsequent year's budget.

If I recall correctly now, and excuse me if my memory is not 100 percent correct, but there was not a portion of the Laing Building funding that was included in the supplementary appropriations last year. It may not have been identified as Laing Building. I believe it was identified as office renovations.

There were two major projects last year. One was on the Hodgson Building and one was on the Laing Building. Some design work has been underway in the Laing using funding from the current year budget.

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Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have the actual document for the 1999- 2000 main estimates. Under asset management, there is no reference to the Yellowknife office renovations. I believe that in the interim appropriation document we are speaking specifically to the Laing Building preliminary planning target of $3.5 million. So is this going to be as part of the business planning process that is coming in June? So committees will have a chance to review it in more detail?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Rattray will continue to respond to the Member.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, the answer is yes, there is another opportunity to discuss the balance of the project. We are certainly continuing the work that is already underway on the Laing Building by using the funding that we are seeking approval for in this interim appropriation.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

In the document here it does not speak of any previous year's funding that went to it or what the total amount is, unless it is this preliminary planning target. I would like to know.

Again, bringing my own quick research and looking at the previous main estimates, I do not see a specific project in asset management that refers to this facility. In the supplementary appropriation, there might have been dollars spent to it, but without having that available or having it listed as previous work done, I am in the dark here on how much. What was the project? Is this $445,000 a continuation or a new phase of the project? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Rattray will continue to respond.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, there has been a project entitled "office renovations: various, Yellowknife" that has been a part of the department budget for a number of years. There has been money that typically includes a number of different projects. I believe expenditures under that project last year were in excess of $1 million,

I have said before that it included a couple of projects. One major project that was completed was the Hodgson Building project. There was an upgrade and a renovation.

The other project that was started was the Laing Building project. We have begun designs on that project.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

My concern is the material we have to go through as a Member. If I was not a previous Member of the Assembly, I would not know if this was an ongoing project or a previous project. Going from one document that was voted approval by the 13th Assembly, under asset management, the only area of land and buildings was $260,000. I came to grants and contributions and then details of capital and there is not one here that says Yellowknife area.

The information we are presented with does not allow me as a Member to find out if there is a history to this. It is a continuation of a project. The deputy minister stated that approximately over a million dollars must have come through a supplementary appropriation. However, because it is not included in this or previous years, I have no opportunity to identify if this is ongoing.

I know that he has explained and I have heard in the committee, but I want to make a record here. The information we are presented with here, and it is not only this department but others as well, is not adequate enough to be able to do a substantial review of the expenditures. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, I can reiterate that the funding for the project was approved. If I recall correctly, funding was approved two years ago and was carried over into last year, at which point the work began.

Much of this project has been deferred from previous years because of delays in agreement on what the course of action was going to be for the government. The case was overwhelmingly in favour of upgrading and renovating the building. We debated the business case for that for a considerable period of time. The decision was to invest in that building and the funding was approved through the supplementary appropriation process.

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The Chair David Krutko

General comments or questions for the Minister? Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one question for the Minister on the negotiating contract with the Nishi-Khon building in Rae-Edzo. I wrote him a letter in February supporting the negotiating contract. He returned a letter to me saying that with the support of myself and the band, it might go ahead. I am wondering how far they are with the negotiated contract?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Rattray will respond to that question. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The deputy minister, Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, as far as I am aware we have not received a proposal at this time, although we have received the letter of support the Member provided. We have not received a proposal from the company at this time.

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The Chair David Krutko

General comments or questions?

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Some Hon. Members

Detail.